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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by NineBerry » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:46 am

Probably all based on the same early data from China.

"Gastrointestinal Symptoms Could Be New Focus for Coronavirus Diagnosis "
https://www.contagionlive.com/news/gast ... diagnosis-


"In a study of hospitalized patients in Wuhan, China, 10.1% of coronavirus patients had diarrhea and nausea in the 1-2 days before onset of fever and dyspnea."

https://www.contagionlive.com/news/gast ... diagnosis-

"Almost half of COVID-19 patients in a recent study experienced nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea."
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:48 am

10% isn't common. And that's for one of two symptoms.

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Post by NineBerry » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:59 am

A study published earlier this month in The American Journal of Gastroenterology looked at 204 coronavirus patients who were hospitalized in China's Hubei province between January 18 and February 28. More than 50% of them reported digestive symptoms like lack of appetite, diarrhea, vomiting, or abdominal pain. Six of those patients had no respiratory symptoms whatsoever.

"We're so focused on a cough and fever, but it's possible there are people with digestive symptoms that are not being tested," Dr. Brennan Spiegel, the journal's editor in chief, told Ohio news channel Spectrum News 1.

"This new study from Wuhan, China found that actually these digestive symptoms are much more common than I think we thought they were," he added.
https://www.businessinsider.com/some-wu ... ?r=DE&IR=T

When only persons are tested that have a cough and all those people that only have diarrhea are not tested, this can explain why the data is so distorted.

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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:06 am

You're grasping. No study or data shows that diarrhoea is common.
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Research has indicated that SARS — also a coronavirus — traveled through a Hong Kong apartment's sewage system to infect some residents after one sick person had diarrhea.

Dr. Susan Kline, a spokesperson for the Infectious Diseases Society of America, told MedPage Today that gastrointestinal symptoms were "not unusual" in SARS patients during the virus's deadly 2003 outbreak.

"It was not recognized early on that [Ebola] patients had prominent diarrhea. Later, as [there were] reports of large numbers of patients, it became more obvious that it could be a predominant part of the illness," Kline said.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:28 am

That is exactly my symptoms this January. I had terrible diarrhea then all the rest just like the COVID-19 virus but of course it was "unknown" then. I never went into an IC ward or had a ventilator although I almost died.
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Trump sent our PPE to Cina where all of it was made
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:47 pm

Diarrhoea was mentioned in the initial paper reporting Covid-19 in The Lancet, 24 Jan 2019...
By Jan 2, 2020, 41 admitted hospital patients had been identified as having laboratory-confirmed 2019-nCoV infection. Most of the infected patients were men (30 [73%] of 41); less than half had underlying diseases (13 [32%]), including diabetes (eight [20%]), hypertension (six [15%]), and cardiovascular disease (six [15%]). Median age was 49·0 years (IQR 41·0–58·0). 27 (66%) of 41 patients had been exposed to Huanan seafood market. One family cluster was found. Common symptoms at onset of illness were fever (40 [98%] of 41 patients), cough (31 [76%]), and myalgia or fatigue (18 [44%]); less common symptoms were sputum production (11 [28%] of 39), headache (three [8%] of 38), haemoptysis (two [5%] of 39), and diarrhoea (one [3%] of 38).

Clinical features of patients infected with 2019 novel coronavirus in Wuhan, China, Huang et al
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Tero » Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:37 pm

Sorry it gave me weird stuff the first post.
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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:20 pm

That's an Erlenmeyer flask, not a beaker. Just sayin'

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Re: The Trump Pandemic

Post by Cunt » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:31 pm

Hermit wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:00 am
This prick is probably about to win a second presidential term. What does that say about the voters?
It says that the Dems, in a shockingly tone-deaf four years, have offered nothing better for the voters to get behind. It may say other things, too.

At least sick Americans are getting some Comfort. Not for the virus, but apparently for non-infected patients. They have used it before, but sometimes for other reasons.


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In 1994, during internal unrest, Comfort was sent to Haiti - not as a hospital but as a processing center for migrants. Instead of extra doctors, she boarded civilian personnel to ID and process Haitian migrants. Arriving in June that year she took on 1,100 people of which 400 were transported to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Of course, it's likely just a coincidence. Trump wouldn't be smart enough to plan anything, right? Oh, and if I asked 'was Guantanamo Bay facility upgraded recently?' it would be one of those questions no-one bothered with. Maybe I need to frame it in a way that makes it look like Trump is bad...
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Trump sent our PPE to Cina where all of it was made
https://www.theroot.com/trump-sent-near ... 1842564752
Trudeau did the same thing. Now, they are shipping stuff back to countries outside China, and a few have rejected these new supplies for being sub-standard.

I wonder why the blind trust in China's government...it's weird.
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