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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri May 13, 2022 10:14 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 6:51 am
In my case, yesterday was horrendous. Must have been horizontal for 20 hours. Running a temp, spiking at 37.5°C. Sweats. Shiverings. Achy joints, teeth, hair, balls. And an absolute funking epic headache that painkillers wouldn't touch. Today it seems more like it was 2 days ago - plus a dry cough, v runny nose, and a weird chemically taste in my mouth I can't get rid of. I've been awake for four hours now and am only just starting to dip - which is a vast improvement on yesterday when I was only managing about 20 minutes at a time. Hate to think what this would have been like without my two jabs and a booster.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by JimC » Fri May 13, 2022 10:44 pm

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I stopped reading at "not remotely done", that's delusional.
The worst might be over, globally, and our vaccines and other measures have been effective, if not totally so (e.g. Brian, fully vaccinated but still got really sick). But the tail of this pandemic could still be long, and continue to inflict people with long covid, and to put pressure on health systems. Developing even better vaccines, and treatments for long covid is a must in the months and years to come
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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri May 13, 2022 10:51 pm

That sounds reasonable to me.

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Post by JimC » Fri May 13, 2022 11:37 pm

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That sounds reasonable to me.
That's me alright - Mr Reasonable... :levi:

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Post by macdoc » Sat May 14, 2022 12:57 am

Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 7:51 am
I stopped reading at "not remotely done", that's delusional.
Your error....it's not remotely done. That's like "let's live with the Ukraine war"..it's not remotely done either.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Sat May 14, 2022 1:19 am

I still think the way it was presented doesn't fairly portray risk to most people. We have reached many "ends" already in this thing.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon May 16, 2022 11:41 am

How Australia Saved Thousands of Lives While Covid Killed a Million Americans

The United States and Australia share similar demographics, but their pandemic death rates point to very different cultures of trust.
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But Australia’s Covid playbook produced results because of something more easily felt than analyzed at a news conference. Dozens of interviews, along with survey data and scientific studies from around the world, point to a lifesaving trait that Australians displayed from the top of government to the hospital floor, and that Americans have shown they lack: trust, in science and institutions, but especially in one another.

When the pandemic began, 76 percent of Australians said they trusted the health care system (compared with around 34 percent of Americans), and 93 percent of Australians reported being able to get support in times of crisis from people living outside their household.

In global surveys, Australians were more likely than Americans to agree that “most people can be trusted” — a major factor, researchers found, in getting people to change their behavior for the common good to combat Covid, by reducing their movements, wearing masks and getting vaccinated. Partly because of that compliance, which kept the virus more in check, Australia’s economy has grown faster than America’s through the pandemic.

But of greater import, interpersonal trust — a belief that others would do what was right not just for the individual but for the community — saved lives. Trust mattered more than smoking prevalence, health spending or form of government, a study of 177 countries in The Lancet recently found. And in Australia, the process of turning trust into action began early.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/15/worl ... eaths.html

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Post by macdoc » Mon May 16, 2022 12:03 pm

Oh joy
Regarding variants of concern BA.4 & BA.5
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We've never had less data in the face of rising new variants.

The European CDC designated Omicron variants BA.4 and BA.5 as variants of concern on Friday. They expect a new wave in Europe in the next 2 months. 1/4

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon May 16, 2022 12:09 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 11:41 am
How Australia Saved Thousands of Lives While Covid Killed a Million Americans

The United States and Australia share similar demographics, but their pandemic death rates point to very different cultures of trust.
...

But Australia’s Covid playbook produced results because of something more easily felt than analyzed at a news conference. Dozens of interviews, along with survey data and scientific studies from around the world, point to a lifesaving trait that Australians displayed from the top of government to the hospital floor, and that Americans have shown they lack: trust, in science and institutions, but especially in one another.

When the pandemic began, 76 percent of Australians said they trusted the health care system (compared with around 34 percent of Americans), and 93 percent of Australians reported being able to get support in times of crisis from people living outside their household.

In global surveys, Australians were more likely than Americans to agree that “most people can be trusted” — a major factor, researchers found, in getting people to change their behavior for the common good to combat Covid, by reducing their movements, wearing masks and getting vaccinated. Partly because of that compliance, which kept the virus more in check, Australia’s economy has grown faster than America’s through the pandemic.

But of greater import, interpersonal trust — a belief that others would do what was right not just for the individual but for the community — saved lives. Trust mattered more than smoking prevalence, health spending or form of government, a study of 177 countries in The Lancet recently found. And in Australia, the process of turning trust into action began early.

....
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/15/worl ... eaths.html

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Post by macdoc » Mon May 16, 2022 1:18 pm

Maybe because we're still testing and only deaths and ICU count. Perhaps if you actually provided a comparative link might be useful.

As at 3pm on 11 May 2022, a total of 6,384,764 cases of COVID-19 have been reported in Australia, including 7,613 deaths, and approximately 352,195 active cases.

https://www.health.gov.au/resources/pub ... 1-may-2022
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon May 16, 2022 5:07 pm

What's the excess deaths rate?
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Post by Joe » Mon May 16, 2022 6:36 pm

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What's the excess deaths rate?
Beats me, but I hope you're on the mend! :pbjt:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 17, 2022 4:51 am

Joe wrote:
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What's the excess deaths rate?
Beats me, but I hope you're on the mend! :pbjt:
Up and down. Had a better Sunday than Monday. Still positive today, though now it's feeling more like regular flu.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 17, 2022 4:51 am

That art of conversation isn't your strongest suit is it? :tea:
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