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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:34 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:59 am
Vietnam did it.
And you believe that?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by rainbow » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:41 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
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Any country can close their borders. Nonsense argument.
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Of course the great expert. Try closing a European country's borders; even the Nazis failed. In the 50's smuggling was a great past time. Once again an arse pull?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:24 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
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Vietnam did it.
And you believe that?
An appeal to incredulity is not a valid argument. Vietnam closed its land, sea, and air borders. If Italy can do it so can the NL.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Tero » Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:02 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:24 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:59 am
Vietnam did it.
And you believe that?
An appeal to incredulity is not a valid argument. Vietnam closed its land, sea, and air borders. If Italy can do it so can the NL.
Well, probably not sea, for Vietnam. You can survive the pandemic quite well with just shipping vontainers loaded and unloaded. A ship can deal with just one official on land, hand over the shipping papers.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 01, 2021 4:48 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:27 am
Cunt wrote:All bodies are beautiful. Even the ones with so much fat, they can't help but react defensively to any rational assessment of adipose tissue as it relates to health and health care.

I can't believe I had the gall to suggest that being a fatter body needs more medicine, more food and more everything else (from clothing to water) just to survive. Imagine it was that dislike of waste, and how environmentally irresponsible it is to waste food by eating more than one needs.

I'm fat now, but I'm just going to let it accumulate. It's not like it's bad for the health care system, or myself. Fuck pullups. Hobby of short dudes.
It was the fact that you implied a comorbidity somehow attracts the virus,
It doesn't, it just makes people sicker.
and that it made the individual more infectious and therefore more dangerous to the rest of us.
More serious effects means more virus production.
The expression of the disease in individuals is not related to the infectiousness of the virus or its spread within the population.
Huh? So why mask people?

Vilifying fatties for putting the rest of us at greater risk is simply punching down on a vulnerable group and is no more reasonable or justified than blaming any other demographic that has done badly during the pandemic - the old, men, or the BAME community for example.
Same as the unmaskers, they are getting into hospital more often, carrying virus there with them.

But you should listen to Hermit about this. He is obviously right, and I don't have a point.

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:24 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:59 am
Vietnam did it.
And you believe that?
An appeal to incredulity is not a valid argument. Vietnam closed its land, sea, and air borders. If Italy can do it so can the NL.
When I worked at the hangar, the guy who introduced himself by helping repair my truck (showed me how to drain water from the fuel filter) left Vietnam, via one of those closed borders, with a couple dozen friends.

SOMEone can't imagine borders and border-jumpers very well...
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:12 pm

People with comorbities like diabetes, high blood pressure per obesity are more affected by covid because the virus attacks and multiplies in the inner lining of blood vessels, it causes infections of the heart, it causes blood clotting and it even causes clotting of immune system cells. All of these things don't increase the amount of virus shed through the respiratory tract. Most covid patients aren't infectious any more long before their acute symptoms disappear. People are most infectious shortly before and at the time of symptom onset.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:21 pm

It isn't their fault, NB, but people who get sicker spew more virus.

More fat people end up hospitalized, bringing it there.

Why is it so contraversial that being obese is a stupid, selfish choice? I understand it is also a psychological problem sometimes, but that doesn't change the fact that it is a selfish, wasteful choice. So why is it so hard to admit anything negative about those who eat more than their needs?
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:37 pm

people who get sicker spew more virus
Wrong.
Cunt wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:21 pm
So why is it so hard to admit anything negative about those who eat more than their needs?
So why is it so hard to admit anything negative about those who say more than they know?

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:48 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:24 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:59 am
Vietnam did it.
And you believe that?
An appeal to incredulity is not a valid argument. Vietnam closed its land, sea, and air borders. If Italy can do it so can the NL.
Look at Italy's borders. Very few roads over the Alps which are hardly stoppable. Anything from Vietnam deserves a truckload of salt. What is the proof of the closed borders? The Americans could not stop them. :biggrin:

Sorry Brian this is just comical. Borders will always be breached. It belongs to borders.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:54 pm

The repetition of incredulity doesn't shore up an already unsupported claim.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:38 pm

Exactly. Claims of border closing are totally unsupported. Like all other fairy data you accept it without question.
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:31 pm

Borders are closed. Except for essential workers. Who would NEVER think to spread a virus.
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Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:35 pm

NineBerry wrote:
Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:37 pm
people who get sicker spew more virus
Wrong.
lol
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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by NineBerry » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:44 pm

There's nothing to laugh about. The severe symptoms develop after the height of virus shedding is already over, because the severe symptoms aren't a result of the primary infection in the upper respiratory tract but occur because the virus starts to spread further in the body in the lower respiratory tract and the blood. Causing severe symptoms but not causing a lot of virus shedding anymore.

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Re: The Coronavirus Thread

Post by Cunt » Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:51 pm

Eddie (the obese guy I posted about in the other thread) ALWAYS uses more breath than you, since you are a teeny, shallow breathing human. (compared to him in 2016)

I am also, with my modest cardio strength, a teeny, shallow breathing human compared to him. And I'm 5'13" and near 200lbs

Bigger people consume more...everything.
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