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Re: Andrew's goose is well and truly cooked.

Post by laklak » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:09 am

IIRC she was of legal age in New York at the time.
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It's the trafficking that's the problem.
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Post by laklak » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:18 am

I haven't kept up, did Andy traffic her? I through that was Maxwell's job.
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Post by JimC » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:56 am

On a side note, one of these days I need to buy a goose and roast it...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:48 am

laklak wrote:IIRC she was of legal age in New York at the time.
Unfortunately Epstein had flown her to London for the occasion.
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Post by Hermit » Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:08 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
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laklak wrote:IIRC she was of legal age in New York at the time.
Unfortunately Epstein had flown her to London for the occasion.
...where the age of consent is 16 since the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 2000.
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Post by aufbahrung » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:49 am

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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:58 am


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laklak wrote:IIRC she was of legal age in New York at the time.
Unfortunately Epstein had flown her to London for the occasion.
...where the age of consent is 16 since the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 2000.
Yeahbut. Though the isn't about the legal age of consent in this-or-that jurisdiction, but about the nature of consent itself in circumstances where Epstein was grooming, controlling and trafficking girls and young women for sex, whether those girls and young women had a real choice about who they had sex with, and about the expectations of Epstein's clients.


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Post by Hermit » Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:24 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:58 am
Hermit wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 7:48 am
laklak wrote:IIRC she was of legal age in New York at the time.
Unfortunately Epstein had flown her to London for the occasion.
...where the age of consent is 16 since the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 2000.
Yeahbut. Though the isn't about the legal age of consent in this-or-that jurisdiction, but about the nature of consent itself in circumstances where Epstein was grooming, controlling and trafficking girls and young women for sex, whether those girls and young women had a real choice about who they had sex with, and about the expectations of Epstein's clients.
All true, but laklak had pointed out that Andrew Windsor's victim was of the age of consent. When you mentioned that he had sex with her in London I merely pointed out that she was of the age of consent there as well.
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Post by laklak » Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:07 pm

Certainly muddies the legal waters, comes down to a he-said she-said."Yer honor she didn't look coerced to me, she was rarin' to go."

What's the use of an age of consent anyway, if at any point, even decades later, they can withdraw said consent? Additionally, can you charge Andy with some sort of grooming offense when he didn't do the grooming, but only benefited from it? Was he part of the conspiracy?
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:51 pm

JimC wrote:
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On a side note, one of these days I need to buy a goose and roast it...
personally, I prefer duck... unless you got a big lot of people to feed, then the large bird is fine
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:55 pm

laklak wrote:
Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:07 pm
Certainly muddies the legal waters, comes down to a he-said she-said."Yer honor she didn't look coerced to me, she was rarin' to go."

What's the use of an age of consent anyway, if at any point, even decades later, they can withdraw said consent? Additionally, can you charge Andy with some sort of grooming offense when he didn't do the grooming, but only benefited from it? Was he part of the conspiracy?
age of consent is not the matter, fact is the girl was shanghaied in NY, flown to london, and delivered as an ordered package, or maybe as a bribe to mr Ander Battenberg, which means it's a case of human trafficking, and both provider and customer are in doo up to the jug ears.
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Post by aufbahrung » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:21 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59987935

Think the moral contagion has spread to his titles? They had to operate or the dark night of the shag might have inflicted damage on the remainder of the dysfunctional family?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:56 pm

Sounds like the family are cutting him loose - like a badger with its leg in a trap chewing its own arm off to escape.
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Post by DRSB » Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:36 pm

I don't expect Virginia to quietly settle and withdraw, the world will be treated to some sordid graphic details.

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