"Alt-right" Still Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.

[L'Emmerdeur]

Some Republicans are questioning whether it was such a good idea to invite the Proud Boys, the right wing gang who openly court violent confrontations, to their event. Really? When was the last time Democrats invited black bloc antifa to one of their political events, I wonder.

'NY Republicans Not Sure Whether Proud Boys Founder Gavin McInnes Is Good Or Bad'

New York's Republicans are divided on whether or not it was a good idea to invite Gavin McInnes and his frequently violent gang of Proud Boys to the Metropolitan Republican Club, after the appearance sparked street clashes between protesters and the far right hate group in the Upper East Side on Friday night.

After initially blaming the violence on "radical leftists," GOP gubernatorial candidate Marc Molinaro acknowledged in an interview with the Daily News on Tuesday that he is "a bit ashamed" by the Metropolitan Republican Club's decision to invite McInnes. Molinaro—who uses the Metropolitan Club as his campaign headquarters—accused McInnes of inciting violence, adding that "the institution was wrong [to invite him] and I think we were wrong not to call it out for what it is."

In addition to espousing racist, misogynistic and Islamophobic views, McInnes has repeatedly encouraged members of his group to commit violence, and bestows the highest rankings on Proud Boys who have beat up left wing protesters. He was initially invited to the Republican club to perform a skit depicting the killing of Japanese socialist Inejiro Asanuma, whose murder on live television in 1960 is considered an "inspiring moment" by the Proud Boys founder.

[pErvinalia]

It's Antifa's fault.

[Scot Dutchy]

You mean the Repugs are thinking.

[Cunt]

Gavin is a racist Islamophobic? Must be fun to watch. I'll check it out.

Can someone show his racist quotes? I want to be sure to dismiss all his other views, and a good racist accusation usually makes me pretty dismissive...

[pErvinalia]

Someone needs to teach you how to use Google. You seem singularly unable to do your own research on anything (other than random youtube videos).

[Cunt]

Still haven't seen his 'racist' quotes...but that's ok. It doesn't matter what he says, he is on your list.

Check it for Milo Yiannopolous, would you?

I just want to see if you will repeat some of the more ludicrous lies about him...

[pErvinalia]

Still haven't seen his 'racist' quotes...but that's ok. It doesn't matter what he says, he is on your list.

I've never heard of the cunt, Cunt.

Check it for Milo Yiannopolous, would you?

I just want to see if you will repeat some of the more ludicrous lies about him...

What lies have I repeated about Milo Yiannopolous?? You just reply via a proforma, don't you? Reality has no effect on what you write, does it?

[Sean Hayden]

Can someone show his racist quotes? I want to be sure to dismiss all his other views, and a good racist accusation usually makes me pretty dismissive...

Rub their faces in it man, woo-hoo, they don't see, they don't see!

[Sean Hayden]

Or, you can tell us why he's not a racist and present your case.

[pErvinalia]

He'd actually have to back his empty rhetoric up. Don't be unfair.

[Hermit]

Still haven't seen his 'racist' quotes...but that's ok.

I have explained to you why in the UK being anti-Muslim is synonymous with being racist in this post, but you went all Father Dougal McGuire on that, but perhaps I just was not thorough enough. I provided a list of Muslims in the UK for you, and left it to you to figure out that practically no Muslims in the UK are Caucasian, let alone Anglo-Saxon, and a negligible number of the Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, Somalis, Gujaratis, Turks and Turkish Kurds, Iraqis, Arabs and Nigerians are not Muslims, so the racists can pretend they are simply against that religion when they are plainly white-supremacists.

[Cunt]

I just want to see if you will repeat some of the more ludicrous lies about him...

What lies have I repeated about Milo Yiannopolous?? You just reply via a proforma, don't you? Reality has no effect on what you write, does it?

You haven't said anything. I said I wanted to see if you WILL repeat some of the more ludicrous lies.

You haven't yet, but probably only because of your habit of saying nothing, with empty, inflammatory words.

Or, you can tell us why he's not a racist and present your case.

Nope.

There is simply no way for anyone to show they aren't racist these days.

Can you tell us how anyone has acquitted themselves of such a charge in the last couple years or so?

Still haven't seen his 'racist' quotes...but that's ok.

I have explained to you why in the UK being anti-Muslim is synonymous with being racist in this post, but you went all Father Dougal McGuire on that, but perhaps I just was not thorough enough. I provided a list of Muslims in the UK for you, and left it to you to figure out that practically no Muslims in the UK are Caucasian, let alone Anglo-Saxon, and a negligible number of the Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, Somalis, Gujaratis, Turks and Turkish Kurds, Iraqis, Arabs and Nigerians are not Muslims, so the racists can pretend they are simply against that religion when they are plainly white-supremacists.

You explained to me why you think being anti-Muslim is synonymous with being racist.

Thing is, he didn't say he was against any race, he said he was blaming muslims for the things done in the name of Islam (approximately)

It's YOU claiming racism, then providing dislike of a religion as you 'evidence'. I understand it well. I bet you would have to lump Hitchins in with the racists now, and maybe Harris as well. That doesn't make them racist (any more than it makes Ben Affleck thoughtful or respectable) but you think so. I accept that. Can you accept that I still think you and Ben Affleck are wrong?

Or will you need to pretend I am dishonest, mentally ill or a paid agent in order to resolve this?

Why not tell us how racist Milo is? Or tell me about the other racists you find unacceptable. It seems to generate a great list of comics, commentators and fun youtube videos for me, at the very least.

[Hermit]

Still haven't seen his 'racist' quotes...but that's ok.

I have explained to you why in the UK being anti-Muslim is synonymous with being racist in this post, but you went all Father Dougal McGuire on that, but perhaps I just was not thorough enough. I provided a list of Muslims in the UK for you, and left it to you to figure out that practically no Muslims in the UK are Caucasian, let alone Anglo-Saxon, and a negligible number of the Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, Somalis, Gujaratis, Turks and Turkish Kurds, Iraqis, Arabs and Nigerians are not Muslims, so the racists can pretend they are simply against that religion when they are plainly white-supremacists.

You explained to me why you think being anti-Muslim is synonymous with being racist.

Thing is, he didn't say he was against any race, he said he was blaming muslims for the things done in the name of Islam (approximately)

It's YOU claiming racism, then providing dislike of a religion as you 'evidence'.

You need your memory jogged. I suggest you listen to what brush Robinson himself said once more Every single Muslim watching this... on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens. Every single Muslim got away with murder? Even the ones who are only nominally Muslims? And the ones who condemn and protest against Islamic terrorism? And the ones who are victims of it? Really? Sounds much like the Europeans of yore blaming the death of someone or other on every single Jew, don't it? Robinson is on a roll there, isn't he? You just don't want to admit the obvious racism because you like that racist.

Why not tell us how racist Milo is? Or tell me about the other racists you find unacceptable.

Milo who? The only Milo I heard from in recent years is this bloke who was expelled from Simon Langton Grammar School for Boys, dropped out of the University of Manchester and was expelled from Wolfson College, Cambridge. I don't know the reasons for any of those events, nor do I care. Apparently he also skimmed grant money into his personal account that was supposed to go to some lucky winners of bursaries. Oh, and he apparently spoke favourably both of gay 13-year-old boys having sex with adult men and straight 13-year-old boys having sex with adult women. Later he backtracked using the usual "just kidding" strategy. If he is a racist, I don't know.

There are plenty of people who engage in repeated and forthright criticism of the Muslim religion. Christopher Hitchens was one of them. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is another. I agree with their criticism. Though I have not read much of Ali's, I am sufficiently familiar with Hitchens's words to be convinced his criticism of Islam is confined to the religion itself. That is not something that can be said of someone who categorically blames a terrorist act on every single Muslim of the 2,786,635 that lived in the UK when he spoke. Oh, what a happy coincidence that for all intents and purposes there are no Anglo-Saxon Muslims, huh?

[Cunt]

Still haven't seen his 'racist' quotes...but that's ok.

I have explained to you why in the UK being anti-Muslim is synonymous with being racist in this post, but you went all Father Dougal McGuire on that, but perhaps I just was not thorough enough. I provided a list of Muslims in the UK for you, and left it to you to figure out that practically no Muslims in the UK are Caucasian, let alone Anglo-Saxon, and a negligible number of the Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, Somalis, Gujaratis, Turks and Turkish Kurds, Iraqis, Arabs and Nigerians are not Muslims, so the racists can pretend they are simply against that religion when they are plainly white-supremacists.

You explained to me why you think being anti-Muslim is synonymous with being racist.

Thing is, he didn't say he was against any race, he said he was blaming muslims for the things done in the name of Islam (approximately)

It's YOU claiming racism, then providing dislike of a religion as you 'evidence'.

You need your memory jogged. I suggest you listen to what brush Robinson himself said once more Every single Muslim watching this... on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens. Every single Muslim got away with murder? Even the ones who are only nominally Muslims? And the ones who condemn and protest against Islamic terrorism? And the ones who are victims of it? Really? Sounds much like the Europeans of yore blaming the death of someone or other on every single Jew, don't it? Robinson is on a roll there, isn't he? You just don't want to admit the obvious racism because you like that racist.

You are conflating religion with race. Do you do the same when others blame Catholics as a whole, for the evil done in their name by their church?

You also haven't pointed me to a single person who criticises Islam, but isn't racist about it.

I hope you have seen the Ben Affleck / Sam Harris exchange. It reminds me of the kind of trick you are playing here.

If I was a member of a church (I was) and found out that they did horrible things (I did) then I would firmly disassociate myself with that church, out of a sense of responsibility.

Not everyone sets the bar that high, but I have the room to do so.

Why not tell us how racist Milo is? Or tell me about the other racists you find unacceptable.

Milo who? The only Milo I heard from in recent years is this bloke who was expelled from Simon Langton Grammar School for Boys, dropped out of the University of Manchester and was expelled from Wolfson College, Cambridge. I don't know the reasons for any of those events, nor do I care. Apparently he also skimmed grant money into his personal account that was supposed to go to some lucky winners of bursaries. Oh, and he apparently spoke favourably both of gay 13-year-old boys having sex with adult men and straight 13-year-old boys having sex with adult women. Later he backtracked using the usual "just kidding" strategy. If he is a racist, I don't know.

He is accused of many things. I listened to what he said at the time, and didn't find it as objectionable as everyone else did. I think he was a victim of child sexual abuse himself, and is a comedian. If you ask me, that is a recipe for being misunderstood and mischaracterized.

How do you feel about Gunn being fired for tweeting pedophilia jokes? Should we end the careers of anyone who joked about awful things?

There are plenty of people who engage in repeated and forthright criticism of the Muslim religion. Christopher Hitchens was one of them. Ayaan Hirsi Ali is another. I agree with their criticism. Though I have not read much of Ali's, I am sufficiently familiar with Hitchens's words to be convinced his criticism of Islam is confined to the religion itself. That is not something that can be said of someone who categorically blames a terrorist act on every single Muslim of the 2,786,635 that lived in the UK when he spoke. Oh, what a happy coincidence that for all intents and purposes there are no Anglo-Saxon Muslims, huh?

You keep insisting this is racial, it isn't. It's about a religion. At least according to his words. Should I listen to his words about you? Or yours?

[Hermit]

That's enough laps done for me. We're not going to agree. I'm off to bed. Cya.