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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:34 am

The bill that Manchin is backing has insulin etc healtcare nenefits. The real Republicans, Johnson and the Florida senator, want to end Medicare.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:38 am

I meant the loophole specifically.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:38 am

c.$12bn to the Treasury. About fifteen F-16s.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:25 am

The government spends regardless of what's seen in taxes. But yes, even if it did work that way the average person isn't likely to be helped here.

The arguments for closing it are just about treating people fairly. Fine.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:13 pm

Go after sexual minorities through kids. DeSantis:

The position on abortion put Warren at odds with a new state law that bans abortion in Florida after 15 weeks. DeSantis, who last year signed a ban on transgender girls and women participating in scholastic sports as a female, has also taken steps to ban gender affirming care for children, which he called on Thursday “literally chopping off the private parts of young kids.”

“Those are really, I think, egregious and again, it’s beyond just exercising discretion,” DeSantis said.

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Post by Tero » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:00 pm

Sinema/carried interest etc:
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The changes Sinema is seeking could end up shaving tens of billions -- or more -- of revenue from the bill. That would likely mean that Democrats would have to cut into some of the roughly $300 billion worth of deficit reduction in the bill or trim some of the spending on climate and health initiatives.

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Rather than be subject to the normal individual income tax rate — 37% for the highest bracket of earners — carried interest, so long as it is held for at least three years, is taxed at the capital gains rate, which is typically 20% for those high-income earners.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:26 pm

the Federal Reserve does not dip its hand into a pot of “tax dollars” to pay military contractors, nor is it required to check some mythical account where tax dollars live before it wires the money. In fact, that account doesn’t exist. As former Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke once noted, when the government pays for things, it is “not taxpayer money. We simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account.” Alan Greenspan, Bernanke’s libertarian predecessor at the Fed further clarified, “There’s nothing to prevent the federal government from creating as much money as it wants and paying it to someone.” The implication is that if Congress can pass a bill that requires some form of spending, the Federal Reserve can and will spend that money without limit, as is the case with the military. This directly contradicts ideas about government money espoused by leading politicians.
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Post by Tero » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:24 pm

That kind of goes with the rumor that the military bill was hard to pin down. They know roughly the amount of money paid to contractors and all the weapons bought and suppliers of things like food, but the overall bill of the military is a mystery.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:02 pm

There is a theory that all money is created by governments buying stuff.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:09 pm

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Boebert attempts humor: “They keep the House chambers very, very cold. The temp is low to preserve Nancy. It’s actually very important. It’s a national security threat, because if it gets too hot in there, her eyebrows will start to melt and we won’t know how high inflation is.”
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:12 pm

That was definitely written for her.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:34 am

Yeah, it's not badly done though. Despite being slightly more articulate than she seems capable of, it evinces her shallow, bilious snark.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Hermit » Sun Aug 07, 2022 3:52 am

Tero wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:09 pm
Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦
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Boebert attempts humor: “They keep the House chambers very, very cold. The temp is low to preserve Nancy. It’s actually very important. It’s a national security threat, because if it gets too hot in there, her eyebrows will start to melt and we won’t know how high inflation is.”
https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/stat ... 9139661827
So Boebert engaged the services of a ghost writer. Why didn't Trump think of that?
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Post by Tero » Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:35 am

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:36 pm

They are going to..I don't know...stop Democrats spending?

But Trump has ideas to help...someone...maybe just him:
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Trump came up with a lot of new ideas in his speech tonight for a potential second term: He’s going to build the wall, make NATO pay their fair share, repeal Obamacare, lock up people, have law and order, get infrastructure done, repeal the Dept of Ed., and stop migrant caravans.
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