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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:07 am

The core raison d'etre of the Republican Part is something which they simply cannot articulate publicly: We are the party of the rich, so fuck you! They are not a political party as such--an organisation structured to attain and administrate power on behalf of an electorate--but a civic, social and fraternal association which forwards the material interests of its members and contributors. This is why it work so hard to position themselves as a reactionary force, opposing all forms of social, legal/constitutional, economic, or democratic progress - any of which would limit the ability of their members and contributors to make more money than they could possibly need. The greatest fear of any Republican is that they'll die a little bit poorer than the guy sitting next to them.

A pathological desire to be the riches person in the graveyard is not a sound basis on which to run a society. :tea:
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Hermit » Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:34 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:07 am
The core raison d'etre of the Republican Part is something which they simply cannot articulate publicly: We are the party of the rich, so fuck you! They are not a political party as such--an organisation structured to attain and administrate power on behalf of an electorate--but a civic, social and fraternal association which forwards the material interests of its members and contributors.
That is an equally apt description of the Democrat Party. With the exception of a few outliers their politicians are bought and paid for by the usual moneyed strata.

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I am not saying the two organisations are indistinguishable, though. While both serve as pipers of those who pay for their tunes, they each adopt different means to do their masters' bidding.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:07 pm

Hermit wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:34 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:07 am
The core raison d'etre of the Republican Part is something which they simply cannot articulate publicly: We are the party of the rich, so fuck you! They are not a political party as such--an organisation structured to attain and administrate power on behalf of an electorate--but a civic, social and fraternal association which forwards the material interests of its members and contributors.
That is an equally apt description of the Democrat [sic] Party. With the exception of a few outliers their politicians are bought and paid for by the usual moneyed strata.

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I am not saying the two organisations are indistinguishable, though. While both serve as pipers of those who pay for their tunes, they each adopt different means to do their masters' bidding.
What is your graphic supposed to be showing about Democratic politicians, and what is its source?

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:15 pm

Hermit wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:34 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:07 am
The core raison d'etre of the Republican Part is something which they simply cannot articulate publicly: We are the party of the rich, so fuck you! They are not a political party as such--an organisation structured to attain and administrate power on behalf of an electorate--but a civic, social and fraternal association which forwards the material interests of its members and contributors.
That is an equally apt description of the Democrat Party. With the exception of a few outliers their politicians are bought and paid for by the usual moneyed strata.

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I am not saying the two organisations are indistinguishable, though. While both serve as pipers of those who pay for their tunes, they each adopt different means to do their masters' bidding.
Indeed. So-called democratic politics has been almost totally captured by the rich.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:09 am

But Biden is a socialist..
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Hermit » Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:59 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:07 pm
Hermit wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:34 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:07 am
The core raison d'etre of the Republican Part is something which they simply cannot articulate publicly: We are the party of the rich, so fuck you! They are not a political party as such--an organisation structured to attain and administrate power on behalf of an electorate--but a civic, social and fraternal association which forwards the material interests of its members and contributors.
That is an equally apt description of the Democrat [sic] Party. With the exception of a few outliers their politicians are bought and paid for by the usual moneyed strata.

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I am not saying the two organisations are indistinguishable, though. While both serve as pipers of those who pay for their tunes, they each adopt different means to do their masters' bidding.
What is your graphic supposed to be showing about Democratic politicians,
You can't work it out yourself? Seriously? In case you really can't, I coloured the relevant bit of my post you quoted red.
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and what is its source?
It's an updated graphic of a version Forbes published here.
Forbes wrote:Tracking Billionaire Donations Over Time
Forbes mined Federal Election Commission data for donations from billionaires and their spouses, searching for all itemized donations of at least $100. This chart represents how many donors we found for every candidate.
As for "Democrat Party" being an epithet, I was not aware of that. Now that you have pointed it out to me I will not use that term again. Thank you.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:25 am

Hermit wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:59 am
It's an updated graphic of a version Forbes published here.
Forbes wrote:Tracking Billionaire Donations Over Time
Forbes mined Federal Election Commission data for donations from billionaires and their spouses, searching for all itemized donations of at least $100. This chart represents how many donors we found for every candidate.
Thank you. I appreciate that--I may find a use for it elsewhere.
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As for "Democrat Party" being an epithet, I was not aware of that. Now that you have pointed it out to me I will not use that term again. Thank you.
It's relatively subtle, but unmistakable. With the advent of Trumpism as the core of the Republican Party it has become rare for a Republican to use the correct terminology.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Hermit » Sun Sep 04, 2022 3:22 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:25 am
Hermit wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:59 am
It's an updated graphic of a version Forbes published here.
Forbes wrote:Tracking Billionaire Donations Over Time
Forbes mined Federal Election Commission data for donations from billionaires and their spouses, searching for all itemized donations of at least $100. This chart represents how many donors we found for every candidate.
Thank you. I appreciate that--I may find a use for it elsewhere.
The updated graphic, also published by Forbes, is here.
L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:25 am
Hermit wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:59 am
As for "Democrat Party" being an epithet, I was not aware of that. Now that you have pointed it out to me I will not use that term again. Thank you.
It's relatively subtle, but unmistakable. With the advent of Trumpism as the core of the Republican Party it has become rare for a Republican to use the correct terminology.
It is not general knowledge in Australia. Maybe the decision by the Democratic National Committee ("We are the Democratic Party.") to name its website democrats.org/ helps obscure the fact a bit.
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Sun Sep 04, 2022 11:14 am

chinese communists.jpg
Republicans obsessed with Chinese communists buying America. And they tweet on it from an iPhone. They could get Android phone like Samsung, which are not made in China. Vietnam, Brazil and India.
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Post by Tero » Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:16 pm

MAGATs only 10%?

Again, we can’t assume that these percentages all overlap. But we get a consistent picture. Over and over, about 10 percent of the population (plus or minus a few percentage points) expresses the sort of view that Biden articulated: Republican or Republican-leaning and in favor of the positions he associated with “MAGA.”

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:37 pm

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Post by rasetsu » Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:21 pm

The media should take to misidentifying him as Gohmert Pyle.

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Post by Tero » Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:19 am

Trumpian cadidate comes out saying the debate is rigged, before it started. Then trashed mostly Pelosi.
“You are a Green New Deal extremist,” Boebert said to Frisch. “These are extreme policies. They’re hurting Americans. You’re saying you’re (for) all-of-the-above, saying you’re a moderate. That’s another part of the con game that Americans are waking up to.”

The congresswoman also accused Frisch — without adding much specificity — of running a “covert government operation” in the “dead of night” to shut down Aspen development and to kill blue-collar jobs.

Boebert on the other hand, directed most of her closing comments toward Democrats as a whole, saying they hired 87,000 IRS agents “to come after you,” accusing them of opening the borders and shutting down energy production in Colorado.

“It is not time to help Nancy Pelosi, it is time to fire Nancy Pelosi,” Boebert said. “This election say ‘no’ to liberal extremists and their army of IRS agents.”

While Saturday night’s event was the only traditional debate scheduled between the two candidates before the Nov. 8 election, they will also appear next month in an online forum hosted by the League of Women voters.
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Our case for survival before it's too late

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:12 pm

Tero wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:19 am
Trumpian cadidate comes out saying the debate is rigged, before it started. Then trashed mostly Pelosi.
“You are a Green New Deal extremist,” Boebert said to Frisch. “These are extreme policies. They’re hurting Americans. You’re saying you’re (for) all-of-the-above, saying you’re a moderate. That’s another part of the con game that Americans are waking up to.”

The congresswoman also accused Frisch — without adding much specificity — of running a “covert government operation” in the “dead of night” to shut down Aspen development and to kill blue-collar jobs.

Boebert on the other hand, directed most of her closing comments toward Democrats as a whole, saying they hired 87,000 IRS agents “to come after you,” accusing them of opening the borders and shutting down energy production in Colorado.

“It is not time to help Nancy Pelosi, it is time to fire Nancy Pelosi,” Boebert said. “This election say ‘no’ to liberal extremists and their army of IRS agents.”

While Saturday night’s event was the only traditional debate scheduled between the two candidates before the Nov. 8 election, they will also appear next month in an online forum hosted by the League of Women voters.
https://www.denverpost.com/2022/09/10/l ... -election/
Event when they're basically for the Democrats people spend most of their time talking about Republicans.

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