Clapping is clapped out - PC gone nuts!
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Clapping is clapped out - PC gone nuts!
We don't have an 'another case of PC gone mad' thread (we should!), so this is here and its fucking nuts!
Manchester Students' Union ban clapping (yes they did!)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-45717841
University of Manchester Students' Union bans clapping
A student union has ditched clapping, whooping and cheering in favour of "jazz hands".
Reps at the University of Manchester voted to replace noisy appreciation with the British Sign Language (BSL) equivalent - a wave of both hands.
Union officer Sara Khan said traditional clapping can cause issues for students with autism, sensory issues or deafness.
But the move was criticised by some who accused students of being "pampered".
Under the new measures, BSL clapping will be used at student events such as debates, panels and talks.
Student groups and societies will also be encouraged to move away from audible clapping.
Ms Khan, the union's liberation and access officer, who proposed the motion at a recent meeting said clapping can "discourage" some from attending democratic events.
So-called "jazz hands", she said, encouraged an "environment of respect".
"I think a lot of the time, even in Parliamentary debates, I've seen that clapping, whooping, talking over each other, loud noises, encourages an atmosphere that is not as respectful as it could be," she said.
Ms Khan said the union was looking for more ways to make its events more inclusive.
News of the measure was met with criticism in some quarters, with broadcasters Piers Morgan and Jeremy Vine among those weighing in.
Morgan said it was a sign of Britain "losing its mind", while Vine posted a picture of soldiers in the trenches during WW1, suggesting they had managed to "ignore the difficulties caused by sudden noises 100 years ago".
The National Union of Students, which introduced BSL clapping at its events in 2015, said individual unions acknowledge the needs of all their students and respond to their needs.
"We should all aspire to improve our public spaces so that all members of society feel comfortable and able to contribute fully."
Manchester Students' Union ban clapping (yes they did!)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... r-45717841
University of Manchester Students' Union bans clapping
A student union has ditched clapping, whooping and cheering in favour of "jazz hands".
Reps at the University of Manchester voted to replace noisy appreciation with the British Sign Language (BSL) equivalent - a wave of both hands.
Union officer Sara Khan said traditional clapping can cause issues for students with autism, sensory issues or deafness.
But the move was criticised by some who accused students of being "pampered".
Under the new measures, BSL clapping will be used at student events such as debates, panels and talks.
Student groups and societies will also be encouraged to move away from audible clapping.
Ms Khan, the union's liberation and access officer, who proposed the motion at a recent meeting said clapping can "discourage" some from attending democratic events.
So-called "jazz hands", she said, encouraged an "environment of respect".
"I think a lot of the time, even in Parliamentary debates, I've seen that clapping, whooping, talking over each other, loud noises, encourages an atmosphere that is not as respectful as it could be," she said.
Ms Khan said the union was looking for more ways to make its events more inclusive.
News of the measure was met with criticism in some quarters, with broadcasters Piers Morgan and Jeremy Vine among those weighing in.
Morgan said it was a sign of Britain "losing its mind", while Vine posted a picture of soldiers in the trenches during WW1, suggesting they had managed to "ignore the difficulties caused by sudden noises 100 years ago".
The National Union of Students, which introduced BSL clapping at its events in 2015, said individual unions acknowledge the needs of all their students and respond to their needs.
"We should all aspire to improve our public spaces so that all members of society feel comfortable and able to contribute fully."
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Re: Clapping is clapped out - PC gone nuts!
wtf? what kind of morons are thes folk?
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OH FFS. JFCOAPS. How about those that cant wave their hands?
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Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:48 pmOH FFS. JFCOAPS. How about those that cant wave their hands?
We should write to the Student Union accusing them of excluding the handless and armless. Their brains would seize up and they would start foaming at the mouth as the computation fritzed their synapses!
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They must obviously deputise a union official who will apply the correct hand waving procedure.Scot Dutchy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 5:48 pmOH FFS. JFCOAPS. How about those that cant wave their hands?
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It's an advisory suggestion, not a rule.
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The wording is jazz hands 'will' be used. It is also going into the Union's constitution. It would be a strong-willed student with uncharacteristic resistance to peer pressure that would clap in the face of that rather than wave their hands around like a prat.
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The guy who wrote the advise was on the radio - a rather nervous chap who wasn't really prepared for a full grilling. Still, congregations will only be asked to give it the jazz hands when students with sensory impairments are present. He couched it as a small gesture to include those students who have reported they would stay away otherwise. It's the aural equivalent of ensuring wheelchair access.
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It is t unheard of for news writers to spin stories (that’s meant to sound ironic) but the BBC news site and several other reports don’t say that. They all read as if clapping will now be discouraged at all gatherings ..you know...just in case.
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I bet you two pints either t'Daily Mail or t'Express got the story first, that it got loads of clicks, and the other outlets based their coverage on that.
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Well it put a bee in my bonnet and I’ve looked at several sources now and none of them refer to it being banned just specifically for certain events or audiences. How could you in any case? You would have to identify if there were people likely to be triggered due to their snowflake anxieties.
And that would after all be discrimination.
And that would after all be discrimination.
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So I guess snapping fingers is also out. WTF will the hipsters do?
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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Having a sensory impairment is not to be a delicate snowflake.Rum wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:39 pmWell it put a bee in my bonnet and I’ve looked at several sources now and none of them refer to it being banned just specifically for certain events or audiences. How could you in any case? You would have to identify if there were people likely to be triggered due to their snowflake anxieties.
And that would after all be discrimination.
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Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
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"jazz hands " is probably racist
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