The End of NATO

[Scot Dutchy]

NATO is not an economic organisation. It is an organisation for aggression and should be scrapped.

[laklak]

Defense, man, defense!

We used to have a Department of War, in 1947 it became the Department of Defense. War is Peace.

[Scot Dutchy]

Defense, man, defense!

We used to have a Department of War, in 1947 it became the Department of Defense. War is Peace.

[Scot Dutchy]

That's Trump.

[Svartalf]

NATO is not an economic organisation. It is an organisation for aggression and should be scrapped.

It's a defensive org, and is necessary so long as Russia will be expansionist

[Scot Dutchy]

NATO is not an economic organisation. It is an organisation for aggression and should be scrapped.

It's a defensive org, and is necessary so long as Russia will be expansionist

Since when?

[Tero]

It's a remnant of WW II when evil USSR remained. Nice man Putin only take Crimea and make Ukraine which is the homeland of Russia to start with.

[Scot Dutchy]

Remnant of the cold war facing the Warsaw Pact. Both the biggest cons ever.

[laklak]

Not the biggest con, religion takes that crown.

[Jason]

Surely NATO is like insurance for your country - you pay the fee and you're guaranteed to have strong allies come to your aid in times of need. It guarantees the peace of a lot of countries who may not be so secure otherwise. The US has always complained about how much everyone else contributes, it's like a tradition that no one has ever dared to kick at the foundations of it before because everyone just nodded, exchanged polite niceties, and continued on as before, the last time a POTUS came around saying the same thing.

[Scot Dutchy]

Which country has it ever protected? All it did is earn American arms dealers trillions.

[Jason]

It surely prevented many conflicts. How can you question the utility NATO has proven to have in fomenting peace and preventing acts of aggression?

Being in a large alliance protects you from the aggression of nasty actors - the large part of this is preventative. The fact that NATO hasn't had to come to the defense of any of its member nations isn't a mark of failure, it's tremendous success.

[Scot Dutchy]

Give an example? It is a salesman con.

[Svartalf]

It's a remnant of WW II when evil USSR remained. Nice man Putin only take Crimea and make Ukraine which is the homeland of Russia to start with.

problem is that Putin is a product of the Soviet culture, and he wants Russia to retrieve its old empire, being the biggest country on earth is not enough.

[Jason]

NATO did it for the USSR and they do it for Russia. There was a period in the 90s where I might agree that NATO was mostly useless, but Russia woke from hibernation in the early naughties, and since then their aggression has been checked, or at least curbed.