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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:05 pm

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Re: US Election 2020

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Not having been born in Kenya, Stephen Fry is disqualified from standing for the US presidency.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Thu Jun 13, 2019 11:31 am

The truth is that Biden is running a nearly perfect campaign in the early going based on one implicit message: I can beat Trump, because I can speak to his voters and I’m not a crazy socialist like some of these other folks.

He might bollix that up; who can say? And when Democratic voters finally begin to make their choices, they may yet punish him for his supposed centrism. The only thing Joe Biden can do is be the best candidate it is possible for him to be, and so far, he’s doing that.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:06 pm

election is about Trump, obviously
other issues poll:
Top Issues for Voters: Healthcare, Economy, Immigration

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Post by Joe » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:17 pm

Tero wrote:
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The truth is that Biden is running a nearly perfect campaign in the early going based on one implicit message: I can beat Trump, because I can speak to his voters and I’m not a crazy socialist like some of these other folks.

He might bollix that up; who can say? And when Democratic voters finally begin to make their choices, they may yet punish him for his supposed centrism. The only thing Joe Biden can do is be the best candidate it is possible for him to be, and so far, he’s doing that.
https://nypost.com/2019/06/12/how-biden ... d-lose-it/
Doesn't anybody remember Biden's previous campaigns? The guy wasn't such a great candidate.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Thu Jun 13, 2019 2:36 pm

You're just prejudiced against old white guys! We are just right for low skills jobs like politician. I'd do it, politician, but I'm an atheist. That's worse than lawyer out here.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Joe » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:25 pm

Er, I'm an old white guy. I guess I'm prejudiced against myself. :funny:

I like Biden. I just don't have any illusions about him as a candidate. Probably be a competent President, which we're gonna need to start rebuilding all the stuff Trump has tried to break.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Cunt » Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:49 pm

Joe wrote:
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Er, I'm an old white guy. I guess I'm prejudiced against myself. :funny:

I like Biden. I just don't have any illusions about him as a candidate. Probably be a competent President, which we're gonna need to start rebuilding all the stuff Trump has tried to break.
I think he has a chance if he can just say nothing, look charming, and let everyone else respond to the circus-clown musical event.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:55 am

Guardian:
Progressive groups are braced for the onslaught. Maurice Weeks, co-executive director of the Action Center on Race and the Economy, said: “I expect a lot more talk about the wall. I expect a lot more talk about Muslims. I expect a lot more outwardly racist, sexist and homophobic things and that really won’t be a break from anything that’s happened since before he was elected up until now. I think that he’s just going to keep hammering on these things that have maintained his level of support at this scarily high level.”

Weeks added: “He’s never said this meme that we’ve heard from presidents, like after you get elected you’re going to reach across and heal the nation by bringing them together. That’s just not his game.”
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If Trump were to reach actoss any divide, he would lose from his 40-45% support and not gain any other groups. He is stuck.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:07 pm

The abortion thing
https://esapolitics.blogspot.com/2019/06/abortion.html

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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:17 pm

WASHINGTON – A new poll out Friday suggests more trouble for President Donald Trump's reelection hopes in Michigan, with the survey showing him 11 percentage points behind former Vice President Joe Biden in a head-to-head race.

The poll by EPIC-MRA of Lansing also suggests, for the second time since March, that a majority of Michiganders support replacing Trump or would consider voting for someone else. Less than a third said they would definitely reelect him.

In a head-to-head matchup, Biden, who is only one of some two dozen candidates but leads most polls among the Democratic field for the nomination, held a 52%-41% edge on Trump, who won Michigan by less than 1 percentage point in 2016.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:28 am

so here's what we have so far:
Lots of fire again, radical healthcare changes etc promised (Warren, Sanders).

What we get: Con man vs Obama's trash heap
" Trump, for his part, is pushing the view that Biden is played out in every sense—and was never really a player. “Obama took him off the trash heap,” Trump said last week. That particular slur might get at the heart of their rivalry. For some voters, a Biden Presidency would be a vindication of the Obama era; for others, a sign that some of its promise, particularly regarding a generational and cultural transformation in politics, has not been realized. But for Trump, who has devoted himself to erasing Obama’s legacy, it would be a sour repudiation. Joe Biden is not the only Democrat who can enrage Trump. But enrage him he does. "
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by Tero » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:42 am

Warren 2nd
https://www.theonion.com/new-polls-show ... 1835636988
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by laklak » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:46 am

Radical healthcare, slavery reparations, and free university on one side, bomb those fucking Arab cunts on the other.

To say this is going to be an interesting election cycle would be to damn it with faint praise.
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Re: US Election 2020

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:30 am

Iranians aren't Arabs. Unless we're finally going to bomb the Saudis.
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