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Re: Active shooter?

Post by Rum » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:58 am

This happens nowhere else. Nowhere else.

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:01 am

If only there was a solution to this problem...
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Post by cronus » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:10 am

We could take the colony back and put it under English law? Doesn't happen here every three days.
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Post by Rum » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:21 am

pErvinalia wrote:If only there was a solution to this problem...
Such hard choices.

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Re: Active shooter?

Post by JimC » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:42 am

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pErvinalia wrote:If only there was a solution to this problem...
Such hard choices.
Too hard. Simply, there are many, many Americans who may well feel pain than this sort of thing happens, but cannot move away from an attachment to "the right to bear arms" and a personal attachment to guns. Any change to gun laws will be seen, at the least, as the thin edge of the wedge, and at the worst, as the beginning of some sort of totalitarian government takeover. It is simply not fixable...
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Post by rainbow » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:19 am

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pErvinalia wrote:If only there was a solution to this problem...
Such hard choices.
Too hard. Simply, there are many, many Americans who may well feel pain than this sort of thing happens, but cannot move away from an attachment to "the right to bear arms" and a personal attachment to guns. Any change to gun laws will be seen, at the least, as the thin edge of the wedge, and at the worst, as the beginning of some sort of totalitarian government takeover. It is simply not fixable...
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Re: Active shooter?

Post by Svartalf » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:26 am

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Post by pErvinalia » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:31 am

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Re: Active shooter?

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:42 am

There is no solution. So long as the NRA exists nothing will happen. This could happen everyday of the week but does anyone really believe the NRA would take any notice. All they would say give each kid a gun.
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Re: Active shooter?

Post by Rum » Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:37 pm

There's one obvious solution - would have thought it would appeal to Trump.

Close all schools. Problem solved.

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Post by Forty Two » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:08 pm

Tero wrote:Hillary would have taken the guns away by now.
So, all the comments that "nobody wants to take your guns away..." was all bullshit?
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Re: Active shooter?

Post by Forty Two » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:16 pm

JimC wrote:The critical bit of information will be how he got the gun(s)...

It seems to me a deranged, gibbering idiot could get all the guns he needed in the states...

And often does...
Well, this is a key point.

What needs to be done is there should be some iteration of:

A. background check for all gun ownership/permits which is adequate to identify criminal and psych past problems;
B. A requirement for any person who wants to own a gun to be permitted;
C. A requirement to report any missing or stolen or lost firearm;
D. No loopholes for registration or permitting of gun sales (like gun show or personal transactions -- a gift of a gun to a family member should require a registration/permit).
E. Reasonable limitation on size and power of guns.

Add to that, I think perhaps we could require some sort of RFID chip be embedded in each new gun produced so that it would be tracked. That way, if it comes near a school, or another restricted area, an alarm could sound.

Some iteration of that.
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Re: Active shooter?

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:34 pm

Jesus that's a lot of regulation! Won't somebody lose money!?

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Re: Active shooter?

Post by cronus » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:35 pm

Move over to metric. The change will divide the NRA and weaken their political clout as they start infighting amongst themselves regarding the change in measures. That is where I'd start.
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