We got a tax plan that 25% approve of. That's great.Tero wrote:The cut that isn't a cut. It does not do anything till after 2018 elections.
The GOP Tax Cuts Are Even More Unpopular Than Past Tax Hikes
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... tax-hikes/
Trump Tax Cut Proposal Underway
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." —Voltaire
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Tax cut for rich or ”everybody” is secondary to Ryan’s main goal: destroy government programs directed at the people. Medicare and Soc Sec. Obamacare. If Trump survives to a second term, that too shall pass. Ryan can barely contain himself! A toast to Aynn Rand!
Only working age people in good health will survive.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... x-cut-plan
https://www.google.com/amp/www.msnbc.co ... t-plan/amp
Only working age people in good health will survive.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show ... x-cut-plan
https://www.google.com/amp/www.msnbc.co ... t-plan/amp
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I think Ryan's main goal is to just get it through before the Alabama election.
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Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
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Can't believe the US invited their own ruin with open arms. The only trickle down you're getting is the pee from a hooker, running out of Trump's mouth.
Kindness, respect, charity, goodwill, hope, humanity... all trampled to the ground.
Kindness, respect, charity, goodwill, hope, humanity... all trampled to the ground.
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6000 lobbyists wrote the bill
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Dear Corporate America,
As you know, the nation's tax code is like really complicated... so complicated... and making sense of it is really difficult... did you know that?... not many people know that... so I, being the president, who won the election fair and square, with the most votes ever gotten by any Republican ever, of all time, despite that nasty woman illegally getting all those dead people to vote for her, and the FAKE NEWS media lying about the size of my hands... because my hands are huge, and everyone knows it... anyway, because good tax law is so difficult... and because I've had to sack a lot of bad government people who are not true Americans and don't respect the president... which is me, because I'm a winner... I always win... I only ever win and I always win big... big hands, big win... could you please use your knowledge of how the tax system works to help Paul Ryan make America great again and so we can give it the best tax system in the world?
Lots of Love
Donald J. Trump
(President of The United States of America).
As you know, the nation's tax code is like really complicated... so complicated... and making sense of it is really difficult... did you know that?... not many people know that... so I, being the president, who won the election fair and square, with the most votes ever gotten by any Republican ever, of all time, despite that nasty woman illegally getting all those dead people to vote for her, and the FAKE NEWS media lying about the size of my hands... because my hands are huge, and everyone knows it... anyway, because good tax law is so difficult... and because I've had to sack a lot of bad government people who are not true Americans and don't respect the president... which is me, because I'm a winner... I always win... I only ever win and I always win big... big hands, big win... could you please use your knowledge of how the tax system works to help Paul Ryan make America great again and so we can give it the best tax system in the world?
Lots of Love
Donald J. Trump
(President of The United States of America).
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Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/opin ... heist.htmlA Historic Tax Heist
Bought and sold by your scumbag President. Morons who voted for him.
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Re: Trump Tax Cut Proposal Underway
No. They will never admit they've been conned. They will double-down for the rest of their lives.
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Capitalism good! Taxes bad!
”Economic growth produces more revenue and that will help to offset this tax cut and actually lower the debt,” Collins said.
“Where’s the evidence?” Todd asked. “Where, explain to me. … [F]ind a study that actually says what you’re claiming.”
Collins said “economists just don’t agree on this.”
Collins also said she cannot guarantee she will vote for the tax bill a second time, but wants to wait and see what it looks like once it comes out of a conference committee with the House, where differences between the two chambers’ bills will be worked out.
http://bangordailynews.com/2017/12/03/p ... sters-say/
What does she mean vote again? Is there a vote after the conference?
”Economic growth produces more revenue and that will help to offset this tax cut and actually lower the debt,” Collins said.
“Where’s the evidence?” Todd asked. “Where, explain to me. … [F]ind a study that actually says what you’re claiming.”
Collins said “economists just don’t agree on this.”
Collins also said she cannot guarantee she will vote for the tax bill a second time, but wants to wait and see what it looks like once it comes out of a conference committee with the House, where differences between the two chambers’ bills will be worked out.
http://bangordailynews.com/2017/12/03/p ... sters-say/
What does she mean vote again? Is there a vote after the conference?
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They will rambthis through in a week.
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Democrats warn that the GOP will race through this final part of the legislative process, too. Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden was quoted by the New York Times predicting "a conference in name only."
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Democrats warn that the GOP will race through this final part of the legislative process, too. Oregon Sen. Ron Wyden was quoted by the New York Times predicting "a conference in name only."
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Did the State and Local tax deduction get axed? I hope so even if it hits me a bit. It's the End of the middle class in cities..... under current policy. In reality I hope, it will be the end of the poor living subsidized lives in cities, so us non rich middle class people can move back and #MAGA
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You want to move back to the city and furnish your home with gold plated furniture and fixtures like Trump?
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The middle-class can not afford to live in cities. Only the very Rich and the very Poor can live there. Tear down EVERY low income housing development and boot out the poor so the middle class may afford to move back.Tero wrote:You want to move back to the city and furnish your home with gold plated furniture and fixtures like Trump?
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