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by cronus » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:43 pm
What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?
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by Hermit » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:52 pm
Crumple wrote:normal for Wales....)
Hacking is no more normal for Wales than for any other part of the world.
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by cronus » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:04 pm
Hermit wrote:Crumple wrote:normal for Wales....)
Hacking is no more normal for Wales than for any other part of the world.
The new normal then...

What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?
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by Scot Dutchy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:25 pm
This one is of the present day in Britain

"Wat is het een gezellig boel hier".
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by Rum » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:13 pm
How so?
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by Scot Dutchy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:31 pm
Count your camera's.
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by Forty Two » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:56 pm
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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by Rum » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:12 pm
My camera's what?
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by JimC » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:08 pm
I blame Pappa...
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by Hermit » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:27 pm
Crumple wrote:Hermit wrote:Crumple wrote:normal for Wales....)
Hacking is no more normal for Wales than for any other part of the world.
The new normal then...

OK. New normal it is - all over the world.
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by PsychoSerenity » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:42 pm
JimC wrote:I blame Pappa...
Could well be.

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by Scot Dutchy » Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:54 pm
Rum wrote:My camera's what?
You are watched more than any other country.
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by Strontium Dog » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:14 pm
Scot Dutchy wrote:Rum wrote:My camera's what?
You are watched more than any other country.
They say the camera adds 10 pounds, now I know why I look so fat.
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by Rum » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:18 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:Rum wrote:My camera's what?
You are watched more than any other country.
Are you sure you aren't German?
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by Forty Two » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:06 pm
"According to the Max Planck Institute, you're 100 times more likely to be surveilled by your own government if you live in the Netherlands or you live in Italy," Baker said. "You're 30 to 50 times more likely to be surveilled if you're a French or a German national than in the United States."
Those numbers are generally accurate, says Joris van Hoboken of the Institute for Information Law at the University of Amsterdam.
...the national security investigations are done completely in the dark or mostly in the dark." He cites Germany's Office of Criminal Investigation as an example.
"It's permitted to use a computer virus to search IT systems and to monitor communications and collect data, without the knowledge of users or service providers," Wolf says. "And while a court order is needed to use it, the service providers often aren't even aware of its deployment."
Van Hoboken, the Dutch information researcher, does not disagree that oversight is weaker in Europe.
"It's actually true that in general the laws here that allow national security agencies and intelligence community to do wiretapping, there are less details and sometimes even less procedural safeguards," he says.
http://www.npr.org/2013/07/28/206231873 ... -or-europe
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