"Alt-right" Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.

[Cunt]

What about the example your asked for Cunt, and which I gave? Didn't you find that informative?

Do you mean this?

The first two only. I'm generally quite calm... What I don't have is:

* a strong distaste for anything that is not traditional, hetero sex
* a feeling that my race is superior, and that the "other" is dirty, dangerous or both
* a need for a strong leader
* a taste for violence

If so, the strong distaste for anything that is not traditional, hetero sex.

To me, it honestly describes every human group I know. Another way to express this is that most people don't have a taste for anything but vanilla.

Next, you say 'a feeling that my race is superior, and that the other is dirty, dangerous or both

Again, it seems like there is a lot of that in every group. Along with that, what if your favourite societies, the ones you think are the most successful and desireable, what if all those were 'white'? Would that opinion mean you think your race is superior? Or you think your culture is superior?

Not as clear as you present, since lots of minorities will tell you they are the best.

A need for a strong leader?
Not that meaningful. Isn't every leader strong? (or failed?) A need for a strong leader is kind of a normal human thing. Maybe you can rephrase.

A taste for violence.
Again, I think that is a human thing, not a political alignment.

[pErvinalia]

I think what you consider "normal" just serves to highlight your own conservative mindset.

[Brian Peacock]

What about the example your asked for Cunt, and which I gave? Didn't you find that informative?

Do you mean this?

The first two only. I'm generally quite calm... What I don't have is:

* a strong distaste for anything that is not traditional, hetero sex
* a feeling that my race is superior, and that the "other" is dirty, dangerous or both
* a need for a strong leader
* a taste for violence

If .....

Nah. This: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 4#p1790774

[pErvinalia]

It'll be no true alt-rightsman...

[Cunt]

I think what you consider "normal" just serves to highlight your own conservative mindset.

Or your lack of math skills.

Most people, gay straight or freaks, will blend in for the most part, keeping their private lives private. All you have to do is look around to see it. There are more and less conservative areas, but all over Canada, people dress for dinner. They even kick people out of bars if they get too affectionate or show too much flesh.

I don't know where you think I'm conservative. Maybe because I'm not a radical leftist...

[Cunt]

What about the example your asked for Cunt, and which I gave? Didn't you find that informative?

Do you mean this?

The first two only. I'm generally quite calm... What I don't have is:

* a strong distaste for anything that is not traditional, hetero sex
* a feeling that my race is superior, and that the "other" is dirty, dangerous or both
* a need for a strong leader
* a taste for violence

If .....

Nah. This: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 4#p1790774

I don't know him, but will check him out. To be clear, are you saying he is a self-identified altright person?


Oh, and can anyone give me an example of someone acquitting themselves of the 'charge' of being alt-right?

[JimC]

Their racism is more than just a feeling that they prefer their own (white) race. They wish to purge western countries of blacks, jews, arabs and anyone else that offends their view of racial purity. Not what I would term a harmless and natural sentiment...

[Cunt]

So how to tell? If I may accuse everyone for a moment, can you tell me how anyone can acquit themselves of the charge?

That's the problem for me. These accusations are tossed around so much, they have lost their meaning.

For instance, many have accused Milo Yiannopolous of being a racist. Funny stuff that.

David Spencer (via wikipedia) seems loony and into purging impurity. Tough to sell that with everybody lying about who they are fucking...

[pErvinalia]

I think what you consider "normal" just serves to highlight your own conservative mindset.

Or your lack of math skills.

Most people, gay straight or freaks, will blend in for the most part, keeping their private lives private. All you have to do is look around to see it. There are more and less conservative areas, but all over Canada, people dress for dinner. They even kick people out of bars if they get too affectionate or show too much flesh.

I don't know where you think I'm conservative. Maybe because I'm not a radical leftist...

I've highlighted where you've been conservative. I'm not going to catalogue it for you. As for math, I can't see what that has to do with your characterisation of what is "normal". Unless you want to put a number figure on your level of bias..

[pErvinalia]

So how to tell? If I may accuse everyone for a moment, can you tell me how anyone can acquit themselves of the charge?

That's the problem for me. These accusations are tossed around so much, they have lost their meaning.

Don't be disingenuous. You don't even accept that "alt-right" has a meaning in the first place.

[JimC]

So how to tell? If I may accuse everyone for a moment, can you tell me how anyone can acquit themselves of the charge?

That's the problem for me. These accusations are tossed around so much, they have lost their meaning.

For instance, many have accused Milo Yiannopolous of being a racist. Funny stuff that.

David Spencer (via wikipedia) seems loony and into purging impurity. Tough to sell that with everybody lying about who they are fucking...

They are not the complaints of others, they are their own fucking manifestos, admitted over and over again...

[Brian Peacock]

What about the example your asked for Cunt, and which I gave? Didn't you find that informative?

Do you mean this?

The first two only. I'm generally quite calm... What I don't have is:

* a strong distaste for anything that is not traditional, hetero sex
* a feeling that my race is superior, and that the "other" is dirty, dangerous or both
* a need for a strong leader
* a taste for violence

If .....

Nah. This: http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 4#p1790774

I don't know him, but will check him out. To be clear, are you saying he is a self-identified altright person?

Why take my word for it(?) - check Mr Spencer out for yourself.

Oh, and can anyone give me an example of someone acquitting themselves of the 'charge' of being alt-right?

Yes. Sam Harris, along with being a rabid Islamophobe who wants to nuke Saudi Arabia, has been criticised for being an enabler of the alt-right when extracts of his writing were used in alt-right promotional material. Well, I think he acquitted himself of the charge - others may take a different view. But why is that important to you?

[Jason]

Their racism is more than just a feeling that they prefer their own (white) race. They wish to purge western countries of blacks, jews, arabs and anyone else that offends their view of racial purity. Not what I would term a harmless and natural sentiment...

It's perfectly natural in/out group behaviour.

[Cunt]

Yes. Sam Harris, along with being a rabid Islamophobe who wants to nuke Saudi Arabia, has been criticised for being an enabler of the alt-right when extracts of his writing were used in alt-right promotional material. Well, I think he acquitted himself of the charge - others may take a different view. But why is that important to you?

I'll look into it, thanks. I do think many (Batman) will disagree with you.

Why it is important is simple. If I accuse you of being a woman, and you aren't, you can acquit yourself of the charge in a number of vulgar and hilarious ways.

Firmly and effectively.

With the 'charges' flung from the left, I don't give them credit because no matter how someone actually behaves, there is no detraction.

It's the 'cry wolf' thing but WAY bigger. When I hear some blue-haired screeching idiot call someone a racist, I don't look to see if there is racism, I look to see what they mis-interpreted as racism.

When someone says Trump hates women, I look at the women in his personal and professional life and think that must be more cherry-picking nonsense.

So if a charge can not be falsified, it's namecalling at best.

Islamophobe is another one. I could accuse (fairly) every news agency of being Islamophobic, except for the ones who reprinted the contraversial cartoons.

Since nearly everyone IS an Islamophobe, I think we need a better word for it. 'Phobia' usually refers to an irrational fear...

[Cunt]

Their racism is more than just a feeling that they prefer their own (white) race. They wish to purge western countries of blacks, jews, arabs and anyone else that offends their view of racial purity. Not what I would term a harmless and natural sentiment...

It's perfectly natural in/out group behaviour.

Isn't it though?

We do teach each other to overcome it, and I think we mostly succeed here in Canada, but it IS a pretty natural, consistent reaction.