Shock Socialism, The Best Solution for Capitalism
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His mechanism's gone (to quote Withnail and I yet again).
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I'm not sure it was ever there, was it?
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You've only the small ideas of the past to go on. Me? I'm thinking forwards and big, bigger than anything gone before. Elon Musk is a old world dreamer compared to what is possible...say goodbye to the world you've known when Corbyn wins.
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What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?
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I've read Crumple's posts in this thread...
And I thought I took too much acid in the 70s...
And I thought I took too much acid in the 70s...
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
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Any communism that has been tried and doesn't work wasn't the real communism.rainbow wrote:What you are calling "Communism" is in fact State Capitalism.Hermit wrote:Historically, communism has always finished up benefiting an ever diminishing percentage of whatever community it was attempted.Alan B wrote:We could have revolution that would benefit the community that would get rid of capitalism.
I know, we'll call it Comm..., Communy..., er, Communism?
That leads us to the following:
1. Has there been a communism in the world that was, in fact, communism? If so, which country was that, so what we can take quick look at it, without spinning our wheels looking at state capitalist countries that are masquerading as communist countries.
2. If not, can you give a brief overview of what a communist country, in practice, would look like, or point to your source for what constitutes the real communism?
Venezuela was a prime example of what I'm getting at. When Chavez was on the rise, I read all sorts of material talking about how Chavez was a socialist, and he was remaking Venezuela under socialism, and it was looking to be a resounding success. When it started failing, though, it was no longer socialism, it was really some brand of capitalism, so not really anything we can look at to examine the failures of socialism. It wasn't the real socialism...
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If only the right people were in charge of all those attempts... that's the problem.Hermit wrote:Well, yes, that was the outcome of every communist revolution to date. I'm sure it was not the aim of most revolutionaries, though.rainbow wrote:What you are calling "Communism" is in fact State Capitalism.Hermit wrote:Historically, communism has always finished up benefiting an ever diminishing percentage of whatever community it was attempted.Alan B wrote:We could have revolution that would benefit the community that would get rid of capitalism.
I know, we'll call it Comm..., Communy..., er, Communism?
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True. Just because it's failed miserably every single time it's been tried doesn't mean we shouldn't try again. If at first you don't suck seed, keep on suckin' till you do suck seed.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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I find it humorous when "failing miserably" means not achieving the highly undesirable end of imposing a socialist economic system upon the people, abolition of private property, abolition of the family, abolition of religion, and imposition of equality (not merely equal opportunity and equal treatment under the law - but imposed equality of outcome).laklak wrote:True. Just because it's failed miserably every single time it's been tried doesn't mean we shouldn't try again. If at first you don't suck seed, keep on suckin' till you do suck seed.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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I think we're fucked no matter what system we use. Other than me as a benevolent dictator, that is..
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Yeah wouldn't it be terrible if no one lived in poverty and no one died from starvation or froze to death due to homelessness or inability to afford heating.Forty Two wrote:I find it humorous when "failing miserably" means not achieving the highly undesirable end of imposing a socialist economic system upon the people, abolition of private property, abolition of the family, abolition of religion, and imposition of equality (not merely equal opportunity and equal treatment under the law - but imposed equality of outcome).laklak wrote:True. Just because it's failed miserably every single time it's been tried doesn't mean we shouldn't try again. If at first you don't suck seed, keep on suckin' till you do suck seed.
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“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
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