Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

[Scot Dutchy]

Is the BBC run by Brexiteers? The way May is given coverage is so stupid. She is going to kick start the talks? She is either totally naive or so damned stupid it is not true.

[Brian Peacock]

The BBC is just a news outlet of record.

People have started noticing that May has now made three high-profile interventions regarding the negotiations, and still no progress has been made.

[Scot Dutchy]

May will achieve bugger all.
Is it difficult for May to understand simple facts?
1. The three 'divorce' points must be addressed first.
2. The EU will not discuss trade until the UK leaves and becomes a 'third' country.

Simple is it not? Of course the big big problem is the Irish border. She does not wont to face that one as it will mean she loses a lot of face. The only solution is for Northern Ireland to stay in the EU which is what the people want and form some form of unification with the republic.

[rainbow]

Well worth a read. I continue to be of the 'informed' opinion rather than of the 'religious belief' brigade (see article) that leaving the EU is a massive mistake for the ordinary people of this country who will I am certain be far poorer, not just economically, as a result.

"The religious insistence that supporting Brexit is a matter of faith, not reason, has the propaganda benefit of keeping supporters in line. Despite the collapse in the pound and living standards, despite the descent of the negotiations into the mire, not one prominent supporter of Brexit has admitted to the smallest doubt. The normal arguments of politics no more exist on the right than they do in the Church of Scientology. Who will break ranks when they know a movement run by vicious hacks will denounce them as traitors? Newspaper proprietors have power without responsibility, Stanley Baldwin said, the “prerogative of the harlot throughout the ages”."

Criticising Brexit could become a hate crime after the movement was granted religious status.

The move comes as Brexiters across the country become increasingly frustrated at people mocking their belief that Brexit will make everything better and deliver the nation into an endless paradise that is perfect in every way for all true believers.

http://newsthump.com/2017/10/13/critici ... us-status/

[Rum]

Well Newthump is of course a parody site but the issue is clear. Remain won all the logical and rational arguments. Remaining made sense economically as well as strategically, not to mention 'progressively'. The basic argument for Brexit was 'give us our country back' and a visceral patriotism based in emotion and resentment. That is why it is hard to argue with rabid brexiteers. Some of them even say hang the consequences - whatever they may be.

[JimC]

I can sense another wave of 10 pound Poms...

[Brian Peacock]

Do you think Australia will look favourably on refugees from the motherland and offer us asylum, or will we be detained at the border and packed off to some barren island until half of us have perished as usual?

[JimC]

Do you think Australia will look favourably on refugees from the motherland and offer us asylum, or will we be detained at the border and packed off to some barren island until half of us have perished as usual?

It depends how well you prepare in your ability to mimic Paul Hogan, or if you look like our Kylie...

But no, it won't be an island for any of you pommies. We are developing a nice little camp in the Wolf Creek crater...

[Hermit]

Do you think Australia will look favourably on refugees from the motherland and offer us asylum, or will we be detained at the border and packed off to some barren island until half of us have perished as usual?

Don't listen to Jim. He is Victorian. The truth is that our government is preparing for your arrival by clearing out our offshore prisons in Papua New Guinea and Nauru.

[Brian Peacock]

Jim doesn't make sense until his third gin anyway.

[JimC]

[Rum]

Sorry to sound like Crumple - but inflation hit 3% today - sadly another indicator that the great British public got it fucking wrong.

[Clinton Huxley]

Sorry to sound like Crumple - but inflation hit 3% today - sadly another indicator that the great British public got it fucking wrong.

That's the fault of Remoaners not being patriotic enough. For shame!

[Brian Peacock]

Look on the bright side guys - at least we'll be getting 1.5% on our savings now.

[Rum]

Funny though how the banks tend to hike the borrowing rate more or less overnight but lag a tad behind with the savings rate. Funny that,