Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

[rainbow]

What if parliament had a vote to abandon Brexit, citing unforeseen difficulties as their justification?

If the pro-Brexit crowd get too worked up, just shoot them...
















(rubber bullets)

That is a bit harsh. Transport them to the colonies, I say.

We know as Africans, we would welcome them.
Starting with a warm bath in an iron pot.

[pErvinalia]

Your government is even more shambolic than our government. And that's saying something!

[Scot Dutchy]

Well she is going to be challenged and as Brian says take time the UK does not have. Tory leader election plus a vote on the bill (it must be voted one way or the other) will take two months. What then? Cancel Brexit? Hardly.
A temporary government on national unity? Can you see that happening in present day UK? The fires in hell would go out first.
This a grid lock of the first magnitude. Of course it was warned about but it is the way the Brexiteers wanted it. Total chaos. A no deal Brexit. Watch your backs. Emergency measures will be taken. Welcome your new masters of your tax haven.

[Brian Peacock]

So the Tories are going to embark upon a hugely distracting, pointless self-indulgent, but fast tracked, leadership challenge.

Brexit in chaos as Tory MPs trigger vote of no confidence in Theresa May

Conservative MPs have triggered a vote of no confidence in Theresa May, plunging the Brexit process into chaos as Tory colleagues indicated they no longer had faith in the prime minister to deliver the deal.

Sir Graham Brady, the chair of the 1922 Committee, has received at least 48 letters from Conservative MPs calling for a vote of no confidence in May. Under party rules, a contest is triggered if 15% of Conservative MPs write to the chair of the committee of Tory backbenchers.

A ballot will be held on Wednesday evening between 6pm and 8pm, Brady said, with votes counted “immediately afterwards and an announcement will be made as soon as possible”.

In a press release, he said: “The threshold of 15% of the parliamentary party seeking a vote of confidence in the leader of the Conservative party has been exceeded.”

The prime minister will now need the backing of at least 158 Tory MPs to see off the Brexiters’ challenge, and her position would then be safe for 12 months. However, the prime minister could decide to resign if votes against her were below the threshold to topple her, but significant enough in number...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... heresa-may

Of course, it doesn't matter who's leading the Conservative Party at the moment - and thus the country - the parliamentary arithmetic for-or-against the governemt's EU-deal won't change.

[Brian Peacock]

Of course, she could always fall on her sword.

[Brian Peacock]

Or ask the Queen to dissolve Parliament and spark a general election.

[Brian Peacock]

But she's just said she's going to fight on, secure a good Brexit for Britain, and fight Corbyn at the next general election. If she wins the party's confidence vote tonight I wouln't be surprised to see the Tory party splitting over this.

[Rum]

Well there's a vote of no confidence today. We will know the result by 10.00 this evening UK time. Looks almost certain she will go, though it is a secret ballot and it is possible the Tories will not be able to decide on a replacement and just might chicken out when it comes to the actual vote.

Edit: I think I've repeated what Brian might already have said. Never mind.

Speculation about a possible replacement of course abounds. They'll need a sacrificial lamb to get us through the Brexit process and then discard, so it may not be a big name we are familiar with.

[Brian Peacock]

Like the new avatar.

[Rum]

Like the new avatar.

Ta! Corel Photopaint - much prefer it to Photoshop!

[Scot Dutchy]

The biggest problem is time. If the tories think the EU will wait around until they decide who is leader they will have to think again.
But a no deal is what the Brexiteers want at all cost. This suits them down to the ground especially if one of their number gets the job.

[Rum]

They will almost certainly ask for a delay if she goes.

[Brian Peacock]

The EU as an institution knows that Prime Ministers come and go. And I think everybody knows we're running against the clock here. If the UK government doesn't change before B-Day then I can't see the EU agreeing to postpone or extend the March deadline - which would otherwise mean Parliament voting to abandon the article 50 process.

[Scot Dutchy]

They will almost certainly ask for a delay if she goes.

They cant get one. You cant under Art. 50 (it is still very valid) ask for an extension until the withdrawal agreement is signed. Almost a catch 22. Dont expect the EU to be flexible.

There was a long report on Dutch tv last night. It does not look good for any agreement but that once again is what the Brexiteers want. They will be laughing behind their hands (yes a Dutch saying).

[Scot Dutchy]

The EU wont move until the agreement is signed. As was mentioned last night the EU does not want to set any precedent that could be used by another wavering country.