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by Tyrannical » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:00 am
Domestic violence laws are culturally insensitive
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... study.html
Australians should show 'sensitivity' to migrants whose cultures 'don't value women's and child's rights' claims new domestic violence study
A taxpayer funded study has made the audacious claim that Australians need to show 'cultural sensitivity' towards migrant men who physically abuse their wife and children.
The study refers to some refugees claiming that these rights 'contravene the cultural values, norms and mores' of their ethnic groups, according to The Daily Telegraph.
The study has however called for 'cultural sensitivity and understanding of the impact on male refugees' who suffer a sense of separation and an overwhelming feeling of disappointment when their views are repulsed by society.
The report did point out refugees' appreciation for the factors of Australian life such as healthcare and education that were not available to them in their home nations, yet a 'major point of contention' was the differing views on women's and children's rights.
What was most upsetting for many refugees was the strong stance Australians had when it came to domestic violence.
It's almost like we're violating their human rights by not letting them beat their wives and children.
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by pErvinalia » Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:54 am
I'll read the original report before commenting. I don't trust the daily mail to be objective.
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by Hermit » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:04 am
Tyrannical wrote:Domestic violence laws are culturally insensitive
That is not what the article says, and I bet the domestic violence study does not even claim "Australians should show 'sensitivity' to migrants whose cultures 'don't value women's and child's rights'". There's a reason why neither authorship nor title of the study has been divulged in that beatup pretending to be a news item, and that there's no link to it anywhere.
Tyrannical wrote:It's almost like we're violating their human rights by not letting them beat their wives and children.
You're outdoing the newspaper hack in the beatup stakes.
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by Brian Peacock » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:30 am
Indeed. The Mail continues committing violence on the truth.
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by Tyrannical » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:02 am
http://www.themercury.com.au/news/natio ... 6bdd43461a
AUSTRALIANS should show “cultural sensitivity’’ to migrant men who resent women’s rights and bash their wives and children, a taxpayer-funded study says.
The three-year study, funded by the Australian Research Council, concludes: “Many refugees see some human rights, in particular those relating to women and children’s rights, as detrimental to their successful settlement in Australia.’’
It says some refugees argue “women’s and child’s rights contravene the cultural values, norms and mores” of their ethnic groups.
http://expressdigest.com/migrants-shoul ... ays-study/
A taxpayer funded study has made the audacious claim that Australians need to show ‘cultural sensitivity’ towards migrant men who physically abuse their wife and children.
And the silly lefties keep wanting to let these type of "people" in

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by Brian Peacock » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:36 am
Still no idea what the report's title is, when it was published, or what it says. The first link is behind a paywall and the second cites The Daily Telegraph as its source but provides no link. That's not the point though is it Ty?
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by Hermit » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:39 am
Repeating right wing beatups does nothing to improve whatever it is you are trying to convey. There is a certain irony about racist scum objecting to the failings of others.
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by Rum » Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:44 pm
Well Hermit and I certainly have our areas of agreement!
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by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:19 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:Still no idea what the report's title is, when it was published, or what it says. The first link is behind a paywall and the second cites The Daily Telegraph as its source but provides no link. That's not the point though is it Ty?
Hmm, inquiring minds want to know. I believe the report in question is available at this Dropbox link:
Inquiry into Migrant Settlement Outcomes, January 30th 2017
[T]he rights which cause most concern and conflict in refugee communities are
those seen to favour women and children, which are often seen as contrary to both the
culture of the refugee communities and undermining to the position of males in refugee
societies. The project has addressed the uncomfortable truth that while some refugees
might dislike these rights, they are in fact enshrined in Australian law, and people who
accept permanent residency and citizenship in this country are obliged to abide by this.
The challenge has been how to understand and address this while at the same time
respecting the cultural background of refugees, and their experiences of displacement,
grief and suffering prior to their arrival in Australia.
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by Rum » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:30 pm
I speed read the report. I thought it was fair and balanced and certainly did not accept that immigrants or other incomers could be given any sort of leniency regarding the abuse of family members.
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by Brian Peacock » Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:02 pm
Indeed. The lambasted 'cultural sensitivity' refers to awareness about how different cultures regard domestic violence. It also looks like this is an interim report collated from stakeholder submissions as part of a consultation process.
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by JimC » Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:26 pm
Brian Peacock wrote:
...It also looks like this is an interim report collated from stakeholder submissions as part of a consultation process...
I love it when you speak bureaucratese!

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by Hermit » Sat Jun 17, 2017 11:28 pm
L'Emmerdeur wrote:Brian Peacock wrote:Still no idea what the report's title is, when it was published, or what it says. The first link is behind a paywall and the second cites The Daily Telegraph as its source but provides no link. That's not the point though is it Ty?
Hmm, inquiring minds want to know. I believe the report in question is available at this Dropbox link:
Inquiry into Migrant Settlement Outcomes, January 30th 2017
[T]he rights which cause most concern and conflict in refugee communities are
those seen to favour women and children, which are often seen as contrary to both the
culture of the refugee communities and undermining to the position of males in refugee
societies. The project has addressed the uncomfortable truth that while some refugees
might dislike these rights, they are in fact enshrined in Australian law, and people who
accept permanent residency and citizenship in this country are obliged to abide by this.
The challenge has been how to understand and address this while at the same time
respecting the cultural background of refugees, and their experiences of displacement,
grief and suffering prior to their arrival in Australia.
Thanks for digging the source out. I just fucking knew the quoted newspapers twisted what was actually written in the report to the point of creating fake news. And then Tranny gave it another twist. No surprise about either.
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by pErvinalia » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:17 am
And let's not forget with our rates of domestic violence that it would appear that DV is part of our own cultural values, norms and mores...
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by Svartalf » Sun Jun 18, 2017 3:24 am
mmmmmh, is tyrannical after beating his aussie gf?
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