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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tero » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:23 pm

Sounds reasonable to me. We did not ask for abortion money!
Rather than move quickly, Pelosi is demanding that the Senate federalize elections, setting up same-day voter registrations and provisions for conducting audits of elections.

The GOP Senate bill was 500 pages. The Pelosi bill I read was 1,120 pages. Reportedly, there is another version of the rescue bill circulating that is 1,400 pages. Who knows how many more political pet projects will be stuffed into this iteration of the bill.

“This is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision,” Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC) reportedly told his colleagues this week, echoing President Barack Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel’s famous 2008 assertion that Democrats should never let a serious crisis go to waste.
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senate 500 pages summary: give the trillions to businesses
people will all gain from trickle down!
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tero » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:52 pm

It's not that. It's
1 corporations
2 2000 to every adult
3 argue about both
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Post by Cunt » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:57 pm

It's pretty clear they are ok with giving giant corporate handouts, as long as the 'corporation' is a museum, or other special interest.

Big companies need to pay their staff...should they just be allowed to collapse, let their facilities fall to ruin? Their equipment?

You need big companies every day. Don't pretend you won't need them tomorrow.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Tero » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:28 pm

Do the civilized thing: pay the salary, subsidized by the government. There are seasonal workers in many industries that collect unemployment when not working. And, we all already pay part of the salary of Wal Mart employees. They can't live on 11 dollars an hour.
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Tero wrote:
Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:28 pm
Do the civilized thing: pay the salary, subsidized by the government. There are seasonal workers in many industries that collect unemployment when not working. And, we all already pay part of the salary of Wal Mart employees. They can't live on 11 dollars an hour.
I can't agree more. Pay the salary.

In my area, diesel equipment is used to maintain aircraft. Should they simply be allowed to fall apart? Where will the workers go after the crisis, if the corporations have ruined equipment and facilities?
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Post by laklak » Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:10 pm

That idiot came within 50K votes of being our Governor.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Seabass » Fri Mar 27, 2020 9:26 am

Gotta love Bernie's old man sarcasm. Oh my word!

"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it." —From the OSS’s psychological profile of Adolf Hitler

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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed May 06, 2020 11:47 pm

Think Republicans are disconnected from reality? It's even worse among liberals

A new survey found Democrats live with less political diversity despite being more tolerant of it – with startling results
But what’s startling is the further finding that higher education does not improve a person’s perceptions – and sometimes even hurts it. In their survey answers, highly educated Republicans were no more accurate in their ideas about Democratic opinion than poorly educated Republicans. For Democrats, the education effect was even worse: the more educated a Democrat is, according to the study, the less he or she understands the Republican worldview.

“This effect,” the report says, “is so strong that Democrats without a high school diploma are three times more accurate than those with a postgraduate degree.” And the more politically engaged a person is, the greater the distortion.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 06, 2020 11:51 pm

Makes sense. The less educated a Democrat is the more likely they are to understand the ideas of the more stupid section of the public.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu May 07, 2020 12:11 am

Some of the big takeaways from the ‘perception gap’ report Include:

Democrats and Republicans significantly overestimate how many people on the ‘other side’ hold extreme views. Typically, their estimates are roughly double the actual numbers for a given issue.

Greater partisanship is associated with holding more exaggerated views of one’s political opponents.

The Perception Gap is strongest on both “Wings” (America’s more politically partisan groups).

Consumption of most forms of media, including talk radio, newspapers, social media, and local news, is associated with a wider Perception Gap.

Education seems to increase, rather than mitigate, the Perception Gap (just as increased education has found to track with increased ideological prejudice). College education results in an especially distorted view of Republicans among liberals in particular.

The wider people’s Perception Gap, the more likely they are to attribute negative personal qualities (like ‘hateful’ or ‘brainwashed’) to their political opponents.

In other words, these data suggest that Americans know what positions the different political parties typically hold and disagree on (e.g., pro-choice or pro-life; for more government regulation of the economy or for less government regulation of the economy), but they exaggerate the difference between themselves and the constituents of rival parties. The more partisan they are, the more they exaggerate partisan differences
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 07, 2020 12:15 am

Says a report done by highly educated people..
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu May 07, 2020 12:20 am

I think you're misfiring perv, give it two or three more tries, then you'll nail it... :hehe:
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Post by pErvinalia » Thu May 07, 2020 12:24 am

That you underestimate the level of extremism on the right compared to Seabass suggests that you aren't as educated as him. Shame, man.
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Re: The Thread of Democrats

Post by Cunt » Thu May 07, 2020 1:30 am

I think it's more difficult for lefties to identify their 'idiot fringe', than it is for righties.

Righties do it regularly, with the KKK for instance. Lefties can't even disavow the violence of ANTIFA often.
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