Does it matter to you if Trump fails?

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Does it matter to you if Trump fails?

Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Jan 29, 2017 2:28 pm

What if, say, Trump fails to significantly increase the US labor participation rate, stem the tide of illegal immigration, increase US domestic industry, production and business, raise US GDP rate of increase to more than 3% per year, repeals and replaces Obamacare with an at least marginally better system, and effectively eradicates ISIS....and nothing significantly positive happens otherwise...

Will you consider him a bad President? Or, are the things he talks about doing just, at bottom, things you like, even if he fails at them?

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:45 pm

He will never achieve any of those because of a simple reason; he is not a politician. He thinks like a business man and a bad one at that.
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Post by Pogue » Sun Jan 29, 2017 5:44 pm

It's matters for now, yet eventually after the apocalypse it will not.

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Post by Woodbutcher » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:55 pm

Obviously the only way he could fail is if the press, the muslims and the Democrats conspire and lie about him.
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Post by rainbow » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:58 pm

Woodbutcher wrote:Obviously the only way he could fail is if the press, the muslims and the Democrats conspire and lie about him.
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Re: Does it matter to you if Trump fails?

Post by Forty Two » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:30 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:What if, say, Trump fails to significantly increase the US labor participation rate, stem the tide of illegal immigration, increase US domestic industry, production and business, raise US GDP rate of increase to more than 3% per year, repeals and replaces Obamacare with an at least marginally better system, and effectively eradicates ISIS....and nothing significantly positive happens otherwise...

Will you consider him a bad President? Or, are the things he talks about doing just, at bottom, things you like, even if he fails at them?

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Yes, if he does not increase the US labor participation rate, stem the tide of illegal immigration, increase domestic industry, production and business, raise the GDP rate to more than 3% per year, and repeal/replace Obamacare, then I will consider him a bad President. He has to take meaningful steps in the right direction quickly. He has to have substantial progress in his first term to warrant reelection, IMO.
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:31 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:He will never achieve any of those because of a simple reason; he is not a politician. He thinks like a business man and a bad one at that.
Well, then we have nothing to lose, since politicians certainly can't achieve those things.
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jan 30, 2017 2:47 pm

You have plenty to lose.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:02 pm

It is a shame that 42 does not think before he writes.
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:32 pm

pErvin wrote:You have plenty to lose.
Not as much as we would if the war hawk, Hillary, had been elected.
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:34 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:It is a shame that 42 does not think before he writes.
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“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Does it matter to you if Trump fails?

Post by tattuchu » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:03 pm

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pErvin wrote:You have plenty to lose.
Not as much as we would if the war hawk, Hillary, had been elected.
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Post by Forty Two » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:43 pm

WASHINGTON — Hillary Clinton made it abundantly clear Wednesday night that if she defeats Donald J. Trump next month she will enter the White House with the most contentious relationship with Russia of any president in more than three decades, and with a visceral, personal animus toward Vladimir V. Putin, its leader.

“We haven’t seen a you-can’t-trust-these-guys tone like this since the days of Ronald Reagan,” said Stephen Sestanovich, who served in President Bill Clinton’s State Department and is the author of “Maximalist: America in the World from Truman to Obama.” “But even that was more a systemic criticism of the Soviet Union. This is focused on Putin himself.”

In a reversal of political roles, Mrs. Clinton, the Democratic candidate, is the one portraying Mr. Putin as America’s newest archenemy, whose underlings hack into her Brooklyn campaign headquarters, bomb Syrian civilians and threaten Ukraine and NATO allies in Europe. For a woman who presented a big red “reset” button to her Russian counterpart in March 2009 (with the word incorrectly translated into Russian), the change in tone was more striking than ever in her debate with Donald J. Trump.
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Re: Does it matter to you if Trump fails?

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:58 pm

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