Hermit wrote:I am not putting Hillary on the same level as the pond scum infesting the White House. I am saying you cannot measure credibility of a person by who they vote for. When Forty Two's opinions lack credibility it is because he puts up shit arguments, like when he argued that Rep. Farthat did not express a desire to duel some other REp when he said "If it was a guy from south Texas, I might ask him to step outside and settle this Aaron Burr-style." FT concluded that "What he said was exactly the opposite" of what he said. Go figure.
Well, he did not ask the female Senator to duel. He said that if the Senator was a male from south Texas, then he would ask him to step outside and settle it Aaron Burr style, which is a reference to their famous duel. Settle the score, so to speak. So, he expressly said he was not going to ask her to settle it Aaron-Burr style, because she was a woman and not from south Texas. And, it's also a figure of speech, not a literal suggestion that he would ask anyone to settle a score Aaron Burr style.
That's hardly a shit argument. I mean, you're free to read that as him literally threatening to go all "Aaron Burr" on a female Senator, but why do you think he really meant to settle it Aaron Burr style with her?
Hermit wrote:
I had an argument or two with someone who voted for Clinton in another forum. As far as I am concerned, this person has no credibility at all, but that's not because of who he voted for. it's because his arguments are shit. Comes easily for someone who does not know the meaning of 'net worth' and 'income', who thinks the sun shines out of Hillary's arsehole, and who keeps asserting to this day that 70% of US voters support her.
I'll agree with that.
Hermit wrote:
You get people who lack credibility - or who possess it for that matter - regardless of who they vote for.
Indeed, many Trump and Hillary supporters lack all objectivity, which effects their credibility. However, I have been critical of Trump, and I have expressed very clearly that I was not a really strong supporter of his. During the primaries, he was not my favorite candidate. He kind of grew on me. At first, i was very opposed, and friends that know me were curious why I didn't like him as a candidate. However, first his chances of winning grew on me, until eventually I came to the conclusion that he was the only Republican candidate capable of beating Hillary Clinton. And, when it came down to between him and Clinton, for me there was no real issue. Trump would get my vote over clinton, if I would vote at all. Nobody else was around that I felt like voting for. I did not like the Libertarian candidate. So, I voted Trump - I disagree with him on the border wall, although it's not a serious or large issue for me. I agree with him on taxes, repealing Obamacare, and efforts to help American business and industry, and efforts to solve foreign policy problems and defeat ISIS. He's not accomplished much of what's important to me since getting elected, save getting rid of regulations and streamlining some pro-industry projects and such.
I think he's made many rookie mistakes. I worry about him, because of his tweets and seeming immaturity. But, I try to be objective, at least as objective as I can. I also have this gut feeling with him that a lot of the stuff he does is calculated. A lot comes across as low class, rude, profane and vulgar, but so much of it is calculated. He managed to win the Presidency against all odds. Against all predictions. Against the Democratic Party AND the Republican Party. He's not stupid. He's not incompetent. He's not incapable. He's a novice in the politics arena and in government, but if he can weather the storm - if he has not actually done something seriously wrong for which he'll get indicted or impeached - if he can get his administration under control and reigned in -- he might be able to accomplish some of what he set out to do.
He has one strike with me so far with not repealing Obamacare, but it's still early in his Presidency.
He will get another strike if he fails on taxes or immigration reform.
He needs to shut up and get to work, and focus. I wish he'dve skipped that "first vacation" he just announced. He should have said he's not going to take a vacation. He needs to stop playing golf. And, he needs to eliminate the petty bickering and bullshit. There has to be a way to retaliate against media and pundits and such without dopey tweets. Figure a way to respond quickly with more polished retorts. Have a dedicated adviser that helps prepare retorts.
That's my current take on him now.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar
