Tony Blair coming back?

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Tony Blair coming back?

Post by Forty Two » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:01 pm

Tony Blair coming back to politics?

Is it true?

If so, what does it mean for the politics of the UK?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 27676.html
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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Nov 21, 2016 1:03 pm

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Re: Tony Blair coming back?

Post by Alan B » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:22 pm

Hope not. The man's a con artist like Trump - only with brains. Much more dangerous.

Oh, he has charisma, but that does not run a country. What the Labour Party needs is someone with the integrity of Corbyn coupled with the charisma of Blair. I don't see anyone to fit that bill...
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Re: Tony Blair coming back?

Post by cronus » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:28 pm

Read this a few days ago but there's limits to the bad news even I can entertain. :cry:
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Re: Tony Blair coming back?

Post by Forty Two » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:56 pm

I don't know much about the specifics of UK domestic policy and what bad stuff Blair was into. But, he always struck me, back when he was PM, that he was so very well-spoken. I used to watch him on the Parliamentary Question Time, where he was answering pointed questions posed to him by the MPs, and I thought he was a great to listen to and he came across as quite intelligent.

There has been a dearth of good communicators in American politics, so I have wished that we would have folks who spoke like Blair. Obama is a great speaker, as was Bill Clinton. Hillary was horrible, and Trump is terrible, and W. Bush was awful, and his dad was crappy. The last good Republican speaker was Ronald Raygun. Romney at least spoke like he had done it before.

What gives me good feels about Blair, though, was his reaction after 9/11/01. He came right to the side of W, and pledged, not just to help, or do what he could - he pledged to stand "shoulder-to-shoulder" with the United States. I thought that was great.
“When I was in college, I took a terrorism class. ... The thing that was interesting in the class was every time the professor said ‘Al Qaeda’ his shoulders went up, But you know, it is that you don’t say ‘America’ with an intensity, you don’t say ‘England’ with the intensity. You don’t say ‘the army’ with the intensity,” she continued. “... But you say these names [Al Qaeda] because you want that word to carry weight. You want it to be something.” - Ilhan Omar

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Re: Tony Blair coming back?

Post by JimC » Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:25 pm

Australia had a Prime Minister who said, in the Vietnam war days, "All the way with LBJ"

Soon after, he drowned. :tea:
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Post by Seth » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:31 pm

Forty Two wrote:I don't know much about the specifics of UK domestic policy and what bad stuff Blair was into. But, he always struck me, back when he was PM, that he was so very well-spoken. I used to watch him on the Parliamentary Question Time, where he was answering pointed questions posed to him by the MPs, and I thought he was a great to listen to and he came across as quite intelligent.

There has been a dearth of good communicators in American politics, so I have wished that we would have folks who spoke like Blair. Obama is a great speaker, as was Bill Clinton. Hillary was horrible, and Trump is terrible, and W. Bush was awful, and his dad was crappy. The last good Republican speaker was Ronald Raygun. Romney at least spoke like he had done it before.

What gives me good feels about Blair, though, was his reaction after 9/11/01. He came right to the side of W, and pledged, not just to help, or do what he could - he pledged to stand "shoulder-to-shoulder" with the United States. I thought that was great.
I agree. I pine for a great orator...one who doesn't need a teleprompter or a speech writer.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:50 pm

Forty Two wrote:What gives me good feels about Blair, though, was his reaction after 9/11/01. He came right to the side of W, and pledged, not just to help, or do what he could - he pledged to stand "shoulder-to-shoulder" with the United States. I thought that was great.
Until they all illegally invaded Iraq.
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Post by Seth » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:57 pm

pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote:What gives me good feels about Blair, though, was his reaction after 9/11/01. He came right to the side of W, and pledged, not just to help, or do what he could - he pledged to stand "shoulder-to-shoulder" with the United States. I thought that was great.
Until they all illegally invaded Iraq.
Which never happened. Even Hillary voted for that one.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:59 pm

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pErvin wrote::blah:
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pErvin wrote::blah:
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Post by Feck » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:43 am

Thatcher's legacy was Tony In some ways that evil bitch had one quality he never had, honesty .
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:44 am

If he wants to come back it would make more sense for him to join the Tories. He's hated by most Labour voters.
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