Trumps Legacy?

[cronus]

What do you envisage the US will look like after five years of Trump?

[JimC]

Looking North, they'll see the fucking huge wall along the border, built by Canada...

[pErvinalia]

[Svartalf]

Obfuscation, hustling and cronyism

[Svartalf]

Looking North, they'll see the fucking huge wall along the border, built by Canada...

That's to prevent pokemon hunters from accidentally crossing the border.

[Brian Peacock]

I think Trump's legacy will be decisive and long lasting. He has changed the political landscape in the US just as the Brexiteers have changed the landscape in the UK, most significantly by giving weight to the lie that facts and evidence are wholly conditional on which party/candidate appeals to your prejudices. By by the insistence of Trump and Brexiteers we no longer have to account for facts or evidence that challenges or falsifies their claims and assertions, for them anyone who challenges them on this basis is not just wrong, but maliciously wrong; a liar, a manipulator, a wilful and sinister apparatchik of a conspiracy against them and the truth. Independent analysts are likened to scientist in the pay of Hitler, inconvenient facts are cast bigoted biases, and the REAL TRUTH is whatever the party/candidate says it is - regardless of whether it aligns with the evidence or contradicts what they've previously said was the REAL TRUTH.

• "Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia."

[cronus]

I think Trump's legacy will be decisive and long lasting. He has changed the political landscape in the US just as the Brexiteers have changed the landscape in the UK, most significantly by giving weight to the lie that facts and evidence are wholly conditional on which party/candidate appeals to your prejudices. By by the insistence of Trump and Brexiteers we no longer have to account for facts or evidence that challenges or falsifies their claims and assertions, for them anyone who challenges them on this basis is not just wrong, but maliciously wrong; a liar, a manipulator, a wilful and sinister apparatchik of a conspiracy against them and the truth. Independent analysts are likened to scientist in the pay of Hitler, inconvenient facts are cast bigoted biases, and the REAL TRUTH is whatever the party/candidate says it is - regardless of whether it aligns with the evidence or contradicts what they've previously said was the REAL TRUTH.

• "Oceania was at war with Eurasia; therefore Oceania had always been at war with Eurasia."

No significant change in politics then....

[pErvinalia]

That was pretty much my response (inside my own head).