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The Pound is going down the Toilet

Post by rainbow » Tue Aug 02, 2016 6:14 am

Glug-glug.

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Post by DaveDodo007 » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:03 pm

Yay, we might remember how to make stuff again rather than importing it. The one country to start the industrial revolution and forget it completely, so lets Make Britain Great Again.
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Post by Animavore » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:06 pm

You've been importing stuff from well before the industrial revolution. Well, plundering and stealing it. Let's not go back to those days, please.
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Post by Rum » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:15 pm

I voted remain. Bustards!!

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Post by JimC » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:25 pm

We'll send over a heap of young Aussie tourists when the pound gets ridiculously low. They'll single handedly save your economy!

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Post by Rum » Tue Aug 02, 2016 9:29 pm

I suspect we will do rather well in the slightly longer term assuming no major international economic 'shocks'.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:13 am

Data released on Monday (1 August) showed Britain's manufacturing sector suffered the biggest slowdown in over three years in July, while surveys published last week highlighted the service sector experienced the sharpest contraction since 2009.

Following the manufacturing figures, the pound was 0.40% lower against the dollar and fell 0.23% against the euro, exchanging hands at $1.3176 and €1.1811 respectively.

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Post by JimC » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:15 am

Less than half a % fall is not exactly going down the toilet...
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Post by laklak » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:26 am

We've got UK visitors in both September and October, they'll be hating it. Luckily they already bought their tickets in anticipation of a continued fall. One visitor is from London, so it will still be cheap as chips for her here, she'll be sucking down pints at 2 quid each.
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Post by rainbow » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:58 am

DaveDodo007 wrote:Yay, we might remember how to make stuff again rather than importing it. The one country to start the industrial revolution and forget it completely, so lets Make Britain Great Again.
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Post by rainbow » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:04 am

JimC wrote:Less than half a % fall is not exactly going down the toilet...
It does add up. The problem being is that the UK has lost its industrial base and has to import very basic stuff, that is now going to be more expensive. That will put pressure on increasing wages, and then inflation.
With investments based on a decreasing currency and giving low yield, there will be capital flight, and the pound will come under more pressure.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:22 am

Indeed. It acts as negative multiplier, and fears about the UK economy contracting into recession in the next year is why the Bank Of England is expected to deliver an interest rate cut tomorrow.
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Post by Rum » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:19 pm

Bastard exiteeres. Sadly 'I told you so' won't make any difference whatsoever.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36962059

The UK economy is contracting at its fastest rate since the financial crisis, making an interest rate cut "a foregone conclusion", according to financial data company Markit.

The Markit/CIPS purchasing managers' index that showed activity in the UK's dominant services sector saw its sharpest fall in seven years.

It follows falls in both construction and manufacturing in July.

The index fell from 52.3 in June to 47.4 in July, indicating contraction.

The figure confirmed an earlier initial estimate of service sector output.

Taken together with the manufacturing and construction data, Markit said a cut in interest rates by the Bank of England - expected following Thursday's meeting of the Monetary Policy Committee - was a foregone conclusion.

Policymakers are widely expected to reduce rates from the current 0.5% to a new low of 0.25%.

Earlier, economic think-tank the National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) said the country would go through a "marked economic slowdown" this year and next.

But it stopped short of forecasting a recession, saying the chances of the UK economy suffering a downturn in the next 18 months were 50/50.

It says inflation will also pick up, rising to 3% by the end of next year.

Analysis: Kamal Ahmed, BBC economics editor:

For those hunting for poor economic data since the referendum result, today's purchasing managers' index for the crucial services sector certainly provides significant pickings.

And it builds on pretty poor figures from the construction and manufacturing sectors.

It is now clear from the data that has been published that economic activity slowed markedly in the weeks following the referendum.

Of course, part of that is down to uncertainty about the shape of the economy as the UK negotiates its way out of the European Union.

Markit said incoming new business volumes fell for the first time since the end of 2012.

The pace of contraction was comparatively sharper than that seen for total business activity, and the fastest since March 2009, it added.

Moreover, companies widely reported the outcome of the EU referendum had weighed on new business inflows during the month.

Chris Williamson, Markit's chief economist, said the service sector data taken together with the construction and manufacturing data pointed to the UK economy shrinking by 0.4% in three months to September, a fall not seen since early 2009, when the Bank last cut interest rates.

"The unprecedented month-on-month drop in the all-sector index has undoubtedly increased the chances of the UK sliding into at least a mild recession," he said.

Markit said it was too early to know if the PMIs would stay as weak as they are now, but it said confidence about the year ahead was at its lowest since February 2009 among firms in the services sector, which accounts for nearly 80% of UK economic output.

"A quarter-point cut in interest rates therefore seems to be a foregone conclusion, " Mr Williamson added, "though the extent and nature of other non-standard stimulus measures remains a far greater source of uncertainty."

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Post by JimC » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:26 pm

Maybe the government will use these figures to ignore the referendum result and refuse to leave, claiming "the national interest" as their compelling reason...
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:27 am

Brexit has been kicked into the very long grass and nobody can be bothered to go and find it. Art 50 will never be triggered. Everybody with at least two brain cells knows Brexit was based on lies and misrepresentations. May wants it to die without trace and is just going through the motions.
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