Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

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Post by Tero » Sat Dec 04, 2021 2:57 am

"Prolifers" want to save half-aborted fetuses:
The fifth bill he vetoed would require doctors to tell any woman seeking a medication-induced abortion that she could change her mind after ingesting the first dose and continue the pregnancy.

The claim that a medicine-induced abortion can be reversed has been criticized by the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists and the American Medical Association as not based in science and potentially threatening to the patient’s life. Evers vetoed such a bill two years ago.
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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Tero » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:45 pm

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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Tero » Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:12 pm

Missouri
Missouri bill would allow lawsuits against those who help women obtain abortions out of state

A Missouri lawmaker wants to stop residents from obtaining abortions outside the state by allowing lawsuits to be filed against anyone who helps them. Rep. Mary Elizabeth Coleman, an Arnold Republican, has proposed a measure that would make performing an abortion on a Missouri resident — or helping a Missouri resident get one — illegal. Like a similar law in Texas, the prohibitions could only be enforced through lawsuits filed by citizens. State government would have no enforcement authority. The U.S. Supreme Court has, for now, allowed the Texas law to remain in effect while courts consider challenges to it.

Missouri has ended most surgical abortions in the state through stringent regulations. The state has only one clinic, in St. Louis, that provides surgical abortions. A number of women travel to Kansas or Illinois instead. Missouri law already includes a ban on abortion after eight weeks, but the state cannot enforce it while a legal challenge to the restriction makes its way through federal court. The ban, if it ever goes into effect, would be among the toughest abortion limits in the nation. The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to issue a major abortion rights ruling this spring that could significantly weaken or even overturn the court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade decision, which made abortion legal nationwide. That outcome would give state lawmakers in Missouri and elsewhere a freer hand to restrict or potentially outright ban the procedure in the years to come.
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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Svartalf » Wed Mar 09, 2022 1:33 pm

Mmmh, don't you need to have standing in the case to sue somebody? who'd be allowed to do that?
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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Tero » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:28 pm

That would play out in court. The SC refused to touch the Texas law, but as they are lawyers, they see the legal problem. Nevertheless the current court tends to side with even goofy state law.
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:12 pm

Thanks the latest GOP prezzies for their outstanding job in packing the place
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:19 pm

It's scary to think about what they're trying to do.

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Post by Svartalf » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:45 pm

I disagree, what scares me is how far they have managed to reach in actually doing it.... and how far they might still go if they aren't stopped and the trend reversed.

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Post by Tero » Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:24 pm

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Post by Sean Hayden » Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:50 am

The solution is to ignore the law as though you had been asked to deny people any other life saving procedure.

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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Tero » Fri May 06, 2022 1:11 am

Republicans have been tweeting for years that abortion hurts women:
We see large immediate differences in the economic well-being where women who were denied abortions are more likely to be poor, less likely to be employed, more likely to say they don't have enough money for basic living needs," she said.

Yet that's not what much of the public hears. "It's so interesting that this idea that abortion hurts women has gone so far with no data, and that the idea that being denied an abortion hurts women has not yet carried in the same way," Foster said.

And in the end, public opinion really shouldn't even matter that much, argues Dr. Jamila Perritt, who is an obstetrician/gynecologist and abortion provider in Washington, D.C., and president and CEO of the abortion-rights advocacy group Physicians for Reproductive Health. "When you need access" to abortion care, she said, "the opinion of other people, who know nothing about your life, means little."
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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by JimC » Fri May 06, 2022 1:48 am

I suspect the hurt to women which they are talking about is the guilt that they assume all women must feel after doing such a terrible, godless act, and the ensuing psychological damage... :tea:
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Post by laklak » Fri May 06, 2022 1:53 am

That's a common trope. "All women who have abortions regret it". I've heard that any number of times, usually from people who a) never had an abortion and/or b) can't have one because they don't have a uterus.
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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Tero » Fri May 06, 2022 11:26 am

Abortion in a van
The groups range from activists in Mexico who have helped women get misoprostol, which is taken for stomach ulcers and can also induce abortions when used properly, and Aid Access, "which is a telemedicine service that provides the pills to women in all 50 states, regardless of whether a state has banned them," Bruder said.

Then there's the group Abortion Delivered.

"They recently bulletproofed two vans. So they're based up in Minnesota, but they're planning on using these vans just outside the Texas border to make it easier for people to access clinics who would usually have to travel maybe far out of Texas," Bruder added. "So one of the vans will be providing, basically, there'll be a doctor who is able to provide manual vacuum-aspiration abortions in that van. It will have a table and an ultrasound and all that. And the other van will have somebody who can prescribe and administer abortion pills."
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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by rasetsu » Fri May 06, 2022 12:19 pm

The states which are passing abortion restrictions tend to fall into two categories, southern states that are conservative strongholds, and states that are also conservative because they are mostly rural. The overturning of Roe v. Wade is going to open up two salient issues. The first is the imbalance in the original constitution in which states without a lot of people receive disproportionate representation in the Senate and the Electoral College. The second is that these conservative states in the south are also the states in which children and mothers are most poorly served, with the highest rates of poverty, teen pregnancy, and the worst schools and welfare systems.

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