Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Tero » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:58 am

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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Tero » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:27 pm

Planned Parenthood was going to remain in Texas to provide birth control. Group immediately tried to chase them out:
The injunction against Texas Right to Life is effective immediately and replaces a temporary restraining order that was issued earlier this month. It will remain in effect until at least April 2022, when a trial is scheduled on the merits of the case

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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Tero » Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:56 am

Chief Justice Roberts, in dissent, said he would have temporarily blocked the law from going into effect in order to give the lower courts adequate time to hear and decide "whether a state can avoid responsibility for its laws" by "essentially delegat[ing] enforcement to...the populace at large."

The case, he acknowledged, does present difficult and novel questions, but none of those questions had been thoroughly considered yet by the lower courts. Nor, Roberts said, had the cases been fully briefed or considered by lower court judges.
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Any questions about the law’s constitutionality could also play out whenever an anti-abortion plaintiff decides to sue someone who “aids and abets” an abortion and the law is debated in court, which Texas Right to Life legislative director John Seago previously told Forbes is how he expects it will ultimately be determined whether or not the law can stand. While SB 8 presents thornier legal issues than other states’ government-enforced abortion bans, some legal experts still predict the law will ultimately be easily struck down. “It’s very likely it will be found unconstitutional,” George Washington University constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley told the Associated Press. “Courts are likely to make fast work of the Texas law.”
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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Tero » Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:54 pm

DOJ Injunction
On May 19, 2021, the State of Texas enacted S.B. 8, which effectively bans abortions performed after cardiac activity has been detected in the embryo. Specifically, S.B. 8 provides that “a
physician may not knowingly perform or induce an abortion . . . if the physician detect a fetal heartbeat.” Tex. Health & Safety Code § 171.204(a). An ultrasound can typically detect cardiac activity beginning at approximately six weeks of pregnancy, as measured from the first day of a patient’s last
menstrual period. See Decl. of Allison Gilbert, M.D. (Ex. A.) (“Gilbert Decl.”) ¶ 17; Whole Woman’s
Health v. Jackson, No. 1:21-CV-616-RP, 2021 WL 3821062, at *2 n.3 (W.D. Tex. Aug. 25, 2021). S.B.
8 contains no exceptions for pregnancies that result from rape, sexual abuse, or incest, or for cases
involving serious fetal anomalies, including those incompatible with life after birth. The law includes
only an exception for “a medical emergency . . . that prevents compliance” with the law. Tex. Health
& Safety Code § 171.205(a).
Texas designed S.B. 8 with the specific objective of evading judicial review of its unconstitutional provisions, as its architects have made clear. For example, Texas State Senator Bryan Hughes,
one of the principal architects of S.B. 8, lauded the statute’s “very elegant use of the judicial system”3
and acknowledged that S.B. 8’s structure was intended to avoid the fate of other “heartbeat” bills that
have been struck down as unconstitutional.4
An attorney who participated in drafting the legislation
described it as an effort to “counter the judiciary’s constitutional pronouncements.”5
And the legislative director of Texas Right to Life stated that one of the “main motivations” for S.B. 8’s design was
a desire to stymie judicial review.

Because any state official responsible for enforcing an unconstitutional state law could be sued
for pre-enforcement injunctive relief under Ex parte Young, 209 U.S. 123 (1908), S.B. 8 purports to
withdraw enforcement responsibilities from the State’s executive and administrative officers and employees. See Tex. Health & Safety Code § 171.207(a) (“No enforcement of this subchapter . . . may be
taken or threatened by this state, a political subdivision, a district or county attorney, or an executive
or administrative officer or employee of this state or a political subdivision against any person, except
as provided in Section 171.208.”). Instead, Texas chose to rely on private persons to enforce S.B. 8
through the Texas judicial system.

Stepping back, the clear intent of S.B. 8’s provisions is to deprive women of their constitutional
rights while simultaneously preventing any court from enjoining the statute’s enforcement. The law
uses the threat of civil liability to cut off the supply of post-six-week abortions in the State. It creates
a widespread class of potential plaintiffs who might file harassing lawsuits, stacks the decks of such
suits in favor of the plaintiffs—through the one-way fee-shifting system and the systematic limitation
of affirmative defenses—and extends liability to anyone who plays a role in facilitating a prohibited
abortion. Thus far, the statute has had the desired effect of deterring abortion providers from offering
virtually any abortions.
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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Sean Hayden » Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:55 pm

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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by JimC » Thu Sep 16, 2021 9:18 pm

I'll mail you a wire coat hanger...
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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Tero » Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:01 pm

Sue me! Says doctor:
A man in Arkansas and another in Illinois sued a Texas doctor in two separate actions on Monday, the first reported cases filed under the state's new law prohibiting most abortions.

Dr. Alan Braid, a longtime physician in obstetrics and gynecology from San Antonio, wrote in an opinion piece in the Washington Post that he had performed an abortion outside of the legal window permitted in the law, which prohibits the procedure after about six weeks of pregnancy.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:35 pm

Good, I hope there's an opportunity to support him and others like him. I always thought they'd have to ignore the crazies when the time came.

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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

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Re: Supreme Court Strikes Down Texas Abortion Restrictions

Post by Svartalf » Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:55 am

shit, those monkeys are thorough
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