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Post by Tyrannical » Fri May 27, 2016 11:00 am

What, expected a Trump topic? :{D

Bernie Sanders believes that the top priority of any trade deal should be to help American workers. Unfortunately, as Bernie has warned year after year, American trade policy over the last 30 years has done just the opposite. Multinational corporations – who have helped to write most of these trade deals – have benefited greatly while millions of American jobs have been shipped overseas.

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Post by Rum » Fri May 27, 2016 11:01 am

Merica - believing in free markets, except when it doesn't suit them. Which is pretty often.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri May 27, 2016 11:17 am

When did conservatives believe in free markets? Only rigged markets with them doing the rigging.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri May 27, 2016 11:57 am

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Post by Svartalf » Fri May 27, 2016 2:38 pm

priority of trade deals ought to be opening the markets and dealing between equals .
the Merkin market is already protectionist enough that you should not expect any further concessions till you start making some major ones
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Post by Rum » Fri May 27, 2016 3:18 pm

I looked into importing Europena cheese into the USA (with a fewllow Ratz as it happens) a few years ago, out of curiosity but semi-seriously too.

The tariffs are enormous and make things we take for granted like Stilton, Camembert, brie and the like about four times the price it costs us.

This would be slightly understandable if the Mericans were protecting home grown versions of the same cheeses, but in reality it seems to be a complete corporate block so they can tie up the market with their own liquid squeezy cheese crap and the like.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri May 27, 2016 3:32 pm

Rum wrote:I looked into importing Europena cheese into the USA (with a fewllow Ratz as it happens) a few years ago, out of curiosity but semi-seriously too.

The tariffs are enormous and make things we take for granted like Stilton, Camembert, brie and the like about four times the price it costs us.

This would be slightly understandable if the Mericans were protecting home grown versions of the same cheeses, but in reality it seems to be a complete corporate block so they can tie up the market with their own liquid squeezy cheese crap and the like.
Maybe they are worried that Americans might taste real food.
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Post by Rum » Fri May 27, 2016 3:54 pm

They have cheese with holes in it. The holes are made with guns.

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Post by piscator » Fri May 27, 2016 6:17 pm

Rum wrote:I looked into importing Europena cheese into the USA (with a fewllow Ratz as it happens) a few years ago, out of curiosity but semi-seriously too.

The tariffs are enormous and make things we take for granted like Stilton, Camembert, brie and the like about four times the price it costs us.

This would be slightly understandable if the Mericans were protecting home grown versions of the same cheeses, but in reality it seems to be a complete corporate block so they can tie up the market with their own liquid squeezy cheese crap and the like.


Poor little fella...Doesn't know white cheeses in particular can be dangerous. Also doesn't know the difference between inspections and approved biocultures, and tarrifs. Also doesn't understand French export regs inre America...

Bought a wedge of Gouda the other day. Made in Holland, Dutch Dairy Bureau casein marked, <$10/kilo.

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Post by Rum » Fri May 27, 2016 6:37 pm

Condescending fucktard.

There's little doubt that import tariffs to the golden land of opportunity (ha!) are hiked as the result of protectionism, in turn touted by lobby groups. Your government and much of your legislation is the result of vested interests, corporations and crooks. But the poor little fella is too naive to appreciate the truth of this.

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Post by laklak » Fri May 27, 2016 8:43 pm

I bought 12 ounces of brie yesterday for $6.99, which works out to around $20 a kilo. Don't remember what I used to pay in the UK. The biggest problem is with cheeses make from non-pasteurized milk. The FDA, in it's infinite Federal we-know-better-than-you wisdom, has decided it's bad for us, so we lost a lot of French Roqueforts and other soft cheeses. Assholes. I didn't know there were stiff tariff structures in place. Maybe we need a trade agreement, you know, like TTIP or NAFTA or something. I tried to find information on European tariffs on American goods, but couldn't be bothered sifting through all the legalese, but from a rather cursory examination it appears that there's a lot of tit-for-tat going on. Who started it is up for discussion.
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Post by piscator » Fri May 27, 2016 9:22 pm

Rum wrote:Condescending fucktard.
Don't start none, won't be none. You compensating person.

There's little doubt that import tariffs to the golden land of opportunity (ha!) are hiked as the result of protectionism, in turn touted by lobby groups. Your government and much of your legislation is the result of vested interests, corporations and crooks. But the poor little fella is too naive to appreciate the truth of this.

That's real nice... I bet you can't back to your original snotty contention of American cheese tariffs with actual numbers.

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Post by Rum » Sat May 28, 2016 12:15 am

Patriotism trumps logic, reason and of course facts for idiots of a certain type.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat May 28, 2016 12:46 am

piscator wrote:
Rum wrote:I looked into importing Europena cheese into the USA (with a fewllow Ratz as it happens) a few years ago, out of curiosity but semi-seriously too.

The tariffs are enormous and make things we take for granted like Stilton, Camembert, brie and the like about four times the price it costs us.

This would be slightly understandable if the Mericans were protecting home grown versions of the same cheeses, but in reality it seems to be a complete corporate block so they can tie up the market with their own liquid squeezy cheese crap and the like.


Poor little fella...Doesn't know white cheeses in particular can be dangerous.
Are they more dangerous in the US than Europe? :think:
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Post by laklak » Sat May 28, 2016 1:01 am

Yep, they're privileged, cisgendered, neurotypical, hetero, old white cheeses. The fucking worst kind.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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