Hippies won't share with poor refugees :(

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Post by Tyrannical » Sat Apr 02, 2016 11:44 am

A hippy commune in Berlin created to promote inclusion and openness toward minorities is now protesting the city’s plans to put 500 refugees on the property they lease.

When the city proposed the 80,000 sq. ft. industrial property should be used to house 500 refugees, the 20 people who run the “Radical Queer Wagon Place” (RQWP) suddenly became not so open. They are now fighting to keep the refugees out by putting up a fence, clearly so that they can continue to promote open borders for refugees and a world free of fences and walls.

According to RQWP’s website, the group organized a rally against closed borders and racism March 20. The event information states that the protest would stand up against “all fences and walls” and support the “right to live where they want.”

The property is now fenced in with a sign at the entrance proclaiming that it is “not an open space.”
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Post by Rum » Sat Apr 02, 2016 12:09 pm

Your point being?

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Post by NineBerry » Sat Apr 02, 2016 1:34 pm

When I first heard about this, I thought the anarchists are hypocrites. However, then I learned about the facts which are these:

The story about the anarchists building a fence is a lie. The fence around the compound had been there long before the anarchists moved in.

They offer to accept refugees, they just want to run the operation on their own and not have their compound being turned into a state-run make-shift refugee-camp while (and that is the important point) there are endless alternatives to housing refugees in much better ways in Berlin.

Berlin has a lot of empty buildings that could be turned into refugee housing very easily instead of creating make-shift camps. That is why the anarchists (and the opposition parties in the Berlin state parliament) assume that this while idea is a ploy of the local Berlin state government to get rid of the (somewhat illegal) anarchist camp (as they have been trying for two years) with less opposition by left-wing groups.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:17 am

Damn the context. This is right-wing click bait, therefore God.
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Post by cronus » Tue Apr 05, 2016 1:20 pm

Anarchists will do the hell what they want. The clue is in the name. Anarchist. If they'd been nihilists they'd have done the same with balls.
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Post by Rum » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:22 pm

In actual fact 'anarchism' is not synonymous with 'chaos' and 'anything goes' as many people think. It was a coherent political system with some traction in the late 19th century. It was so far round to the left that it almost popped intio the right again with its belief in people working and acting together in loose collectives and cooperative systems with no permanent governance. Kind of socialism for the Seths of the world. :hehe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin

..for a bit about one of its founders.

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Post by cronus » Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:09 pm

Rum wrote:In actual fact 'anarchism' is not synonymous with 'chaos' and 'anything goes' as many people think. It was a coherent political system with some traction in the late 19th century. It was so far round to the left that it almost popped intio the right again with its belief in people working and acting together in loose collectives and cooperative systems with no permanent governance. Kind of socialism for the Seths of the world. :hehe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin

..for a bit about one of its founders.
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Post by laklak » Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:09 pm

I'd have done the hell out of Gracie back in the day.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:47 am

Crumple wrote:
Rum wrote:In actual fact 'anarchism' is not synonymous with 'chaos' and 'anything goes' as many people think. It was a coherent political system with some traction in the late 19th century. It was so far round to the left that it almost popped intio the right again with its belief in people working and acting together in loose collectives and cooperative systems with no permanent governance. Kind of socialism for the Seths of the world. :hehe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakunin

..for a bit about one of its founders.
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Post by cronus » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:50 am

The mountain tops are always a trifle cloudy from further on down...Dorothy. :read:
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Post by cronus » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:30 am

Crumple wrote:The mountain tops are always a trifle cloudy from further on down...Dorothy. :read:
What I was meaning is you can't infer the developed 'idealism' from its embryonic manifestation. Even capitalism was a good idea at the start, ain't they all? Some of these things improve with time. Anarchists no longer plant bombs. Many are greenies now and prefer to plant seeds.
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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:41 am

The "anarchist" compound includes 70,000 sq ft of buildings, which they pay $1000 a month rent. Some civil servants deserve jail time for theft for allowing that deal.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:00 am

Crumple wrote:
Crumple wrote:The mountain tops are always a trifle cloudy from further on down...Dorothy. :read:
What I was meaning is you can't infer the developed 'idealism' from its embryonic manifestation. Even capitalism was a good idea at the start, ain't they all? Some of these things improve with time. Anarchists no longer plant bombs. Many are greenies now and prefer to plant seeds.
I don't know what that means, but in case you are serious, anarchism is a political philosophy not violence and chaos.
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Post by Tyrannical » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:12 am

I dunno, when I ever see "anarchy" and "anarchists" it always involves violence and chaos. Not the Utopian wet dream of peace without government.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:52 am

That's more a problem with you than anarchists.
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