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Post by mistermack » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:32 pm

Amateurs.

Not a patch on Dutch dog fighting.
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Post by Rum » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:46 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:Those procuring dogs for dog fighting should be dropped into a pit with a hungry American Pit Bull.
..or at the very least have their balls lopped off.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:18 pm

Harsh, but fair.
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Post by laklak » Sat Apr 21, 2018 3:40 am

Brian Peacock wrote:Those procuring dogs for dog fighting should be dropped into a pit with a hungry American Pit Bull.
Here's Captain Pickard meeting an American Pit Bull:

Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:03 am

mistermack wrote:Amateurs.

Not a patch on Dutch dog fighting.
We dont have fighting dogs. They are totally illegal as are all the various cross breeds.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:51 am

Any dog can fight. And Dutch dogs are obviously going to be the best fighting dogs.. :coffee:
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Post by JimC » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:59 am

In Victoria, our main problem is the rings of fighting Guinea Pigs. The sight of them nuzzling and pushing ineffectually at each other is truly terrifying... :tea:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:18 am

laklak wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:Those procuring dogs for dog fighting should be dropped into a pit with a hungry American Pit Bull.
Here's Captain Pickard meeting an American Pit Bull:

Sweet. :D
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:07 am

I hope he counts his fingers afterwards.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:42 am

OK, some dogs are bad tempered, and some have bad brains, just like humans - but that's not a function of a particular breed but of many factors, including how they've been bred of course, and how they're raised and handled, and how they're treated. This idea that particular breeds are inherently more dangerous than others is a bit of a myth. Dogs bred and trained for violence and aggression will be easier to train to be violent and aggressive.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:44 am

:this: (except Dutch breeds. They are easier to train to do anything).
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Post by Hermit » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:11 am

Brian Peacock wrote:OK, some dogs are bad tempered, and some have bad brains, just like humans - but that's not a function of a particular breed...
Mostly true, but a bad tempered, bred for violence 40 kilo pit bull is more likely to inflict serious injuries or cause deaths than a bad tempered, bred for violence three kilo chihuahua. This is why you rarely see the latter used in the role of junk yard dogs.
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Post by mistermack » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:16 am

Brian Peacock wrote:OK, some dogs are bad tempered, and some have bad brains, just like humans - but that's not a function of a particular breed but of many factors, including how they've been bred of course, and how they're raised and handled, and how they're treated. This idea that particular breeds are inherently more dangerous than others is a bit of a myth. Dogs bred and trained for violence and aggression will be easier to train to be violent and aggressive.
I disagree. While it's perfectly possible for an intelligent, conscientious owner to train a fighting breed dog to be safe, that doesn't apply to the average owner.
I agree with the law that fighting breeds should be banned, because not all owners are perfect.
In fact, the people who buy fighting breeds are almost 100% wankers.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:35 am

If people are bent on training dogs for fighting then banning breeds is pointless. Any dog can be of a "fighting breed" - a poodle (or even a pekinese) can be bred and trained for that. However, as Hermit points out, the consequences for humans of a rampaging pekinese are generally going to be less problematic that of an out-of-control 200lb bull mastif (although a pekinese can still rip your carotid out!), but the quality of ownership and handling are the most important factors here - not how dangerous the public have been led to believe this or that breed is.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:43 am

We just ban them. They are not allowed to be bred. They have no purpose. Violent breeds will be violent. How many family pet fighting dogs have attacked their owners or their owners children?

I also agree with MM that the people that want them are the semi-intellegent sector of society.
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