Calls for mosques to be closed after Paris attacks

[cronus]

Ukip candidate calls for mosques to be closed after Paris attacks



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[Hermit]

When the bolsheviks assumed power they closed all churches. Russian Orthodox Christianity survived that quite well.

Also, once more your thread title is misleading.

[cronus]

When the bolsheviks assumed power they closed all churches. Russian Orthodox Christianity survived that quite well.

Also, once more your thread title is misleading.

Russia is still one of the most atheistic countries in the world today. So not bad coming from backwards peasantry a century and half ago. I say close them Mosques with extreme sub-prejudice. Albeit nicely too. Out of respect fro the dead and everything.

[JimC]

I would be quite prepared to agree with the closure of mosques anywhere in the west where jihad was preached.

Fuck 'em.

[Hermit]

When the bolsheviks assumed power they closed all churches. Russian Orthodox Christianity survived that quite well.

Also, once more your thread title is misleading.

Russia is still one of the most atheistic countries in the world today.

Please acquaint yourself with the facts. 41% of Russia's population adheres to the Russian orthodox church. 13% of it considers itself to be atheist or non-religious. In contrast, to give just one example, 23% of Australians, a nation that has not enjoyed 70 years of churches being closed, describe themselves as atheist or non-religious.

[cronus]

When the bolsheviks assumed power they closed all churches. Russian Orthodox Christianity survived that quite well.

Also, once more your thread title is misleading.

Russia is still one of the most atheistic countries in the world today.

Please acquaint yourself with the facts. 41% of Russia's population adheres to the Russian orthodox church. 13% of it considers itself to be atheist or non-religious. In contrast, to give just one example, 23% of Australians, a nation that has not enjoyed 70 years of churches being closed, describe themselves as atheist or non-religious.

The most recent European Social Surveys (ESS), from 2007 and 2009, found that 46% of the population of Russia declared itself non religious, 45% Eastern Orthodox, 8% Muslim, and the remaining belonged to other faiths.


I'd say core-value atheists are gonna be a minority of non-believers anywhere, even here. I'd assume that is what your slight of hand with stats is about? Albeit it is only a guess. Go count them?

[cronus]

When the bolsheviks assumed power they closed all churches. Russian Orthodox Christianity survived that quite well.

Also, once more your thread title is misleading.

Russia is still one of the most atheistic countries in the world today.

Please acquaint yourself with the facts. 41% of Russia's population adheres to the Russian orthodox church. 13% of it considers itself to be atheist or non-religious. In contrast, to give just one example, 23% of Australians, a nation that has not enjoyed 70 years of churches being closed, describe themselves as atheist or non-religious.

The most recent European Social Surveys (ESS), from 2007 and 2009, found that 46% of the population of Russia declared itself non religious, 45% Eastern Orthodox, 8% Muslim, and the remaining belonged to other faiths.


I'd say core-value atheists are gonna be a minority of non-believers anywhere, even here. I'd assume that is what your slight of hand with stats is about? Albeit it is only a guess. Go count them?

[Hermit]

Looks like you or the survey added those declaring themselves as "spiritual but non-religious" and "undecided" to "atheist or non-religious".

Here are the statistics as of 2012:

Russian Orthodox (41%)
Muslim (6.5%)
Unaffiliated Christian (4.1%)
Other Orthodox (1.5%)
Neopagan and Tengrist (1.2%)
Tibetan Buddhist (0.5%)
Other religions (1.7%)
Spiritual but not religious (25%)
Atheist and non-religious (13%)
Undecided (5.5%)

[cronus]

Looks like you or the survey added those declaring themselves as "spiritual but non-religious" and "undecided" to "atheist or non-religious".

Here are the statistics as of 2012:

Russian Orthodox (41%)
Muslim (6.5%)
Unaffiliated Christian (4.1%)
Other Orthodox (1.5%)
Neopagan and Tengrist (1.2%)
Tibetan Buddhist (0.5%)
Other religions (1.7%)
Spiritual but not religious (25%)
Atheist and non-religious (13%)
Undecided (5.5%)

Lot of C of E still about here....doesn't mean much in practice.

[Hermit]

Unlike Russia, the UK did not enjoy 70 years of church closures. Yet, in the 2011 census 25.7% of the UK population said it was not religious. That's close enough to double the percentage in Russia.

[Svartalf]

Well, why not call for vertical deportation of all muslims while he's at it?

[Scot Dutchy]

Just make sure of education and the mosques will close themselves. That is the experience here.

France and Belgium made one fundamental mistake; they allowed ghetto's to exist. The mayor of Brussel admitted as much saying that not enough attention was given to Molenbeek (the district in Brussel where the majority are muslim).

[MrJonno]

Russia is and in fact has never been an atheist country at least as a culture, even in the darkest days of the cold war and revolution it was still probably more religious than the UK

I've been to quite a few churches and mosques in my world travel, Russia was the only place I had a priest come up to me and have a go for not crossing myself or praying (no I didnt piss on the altar or anything else)

The young people tend to be religious as a point of rebellion against their parents

[laklak]

Can't close them here, freedom of religion and all that. But we could tax the shit out of them. Might even open the door to taxing the shit out of churches. Fuck 'em, pay to play, man.

[MrJonno]

Can't close them here, freedom of religion and all that. But we could tax the shit out of them. Might even open the door to taxing the shit out of churches. Fuck 'em, pay to play, man.

At least in the UK religions do not get charity free status as such, if they do charity work they do but merely praying to the great Aardvark in the sky does not give you a tax break