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Post by Seth » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:07 am

Look now for heavily armed Special Weapons Against Fat teams kicking in the door to confiscate that spotted dick.

Doctors told to report patients who put on weight
Head of the NHS sets out radical plans to fight the flab as new figures show that only Hungary is worse than the UK when it comes to obesity
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Only Hungary has higher levels of obesity than the UK, new figures show Photo: Alamy
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By Laura Donnelly, Health Editor

10:00PM GMT 25 Dec 2014



GPs will be asked to identify patients who are putting on weight under a new national programme to help fight obesity.

Simon Stevens, the head of the NHS, said it was time for Britain to "get back in shape" in order to protect millions of people from a host of obesity-related diseases.

Under the scheme, family doctors will be asked to identify anyone who has gained weight and is at risk of diabetes – particularly those aged below 40.

They will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice and close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more.

It comes as new figures show Britain is now the second fattest nation in Europe, with almost 25 per cent of Britons classified as obese - compared with a European average of 16.7 per cent.
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Mr Stevens, the chief executive of the health service, said obesity was a problem that could be tackled – provided schools, parents, the NHS and the food industry all 'got their act together' and worked in unison.

In a direct attack on last week's EU ruling - which said fatness could constitute a disability - Mr Stevens said such fatalistic attitudes to the issue were "daft".

Instead, he urged millions of people to put Christmas indulgences behind them, and take action to shed the pounds.

"The ghost of Christmases past reminds us that 20 years ago we didn’t have these problems as a nation,” Mr Stevens said.

"The ghost of Christmases future tells us that if we get our act together - as the NHS, as parents, as schools, the food industry - we can get back in shape."

He called on individuals to take concerted action and suggested attitudes needed to change to prevent the country sleepwalking into the worst public health emergency in at least three decades.

"Rather than recent daft judgments by the European court practically pretending that obesity is inevitable, in England in 2015 we're going to start proving that it isn't," he added.

The new figures - comparing 26 EU countries - show that in Europe, only Hungary now has higher obesity levels than Britain.

In total 24.7 per cent of Britons are now obese, compared with a European average of 16.7 per cent, the figures from the Organisation for Economics and Co-operation disclose.

Six EU countries now have obesity levels less than half those in the UK, the figures show. Italy, Bulgaria, Sweden, the Netherlands, and Austria all have obesity levels of less than 13 per cent, with the lowest rates in Romania, at 7.9 per cent.

In the EU, only Hungary has higher rates of adult obesity than the UK, at 28.5 per cent.

Mr Stevens promised to introduce the first ever national programme to target millions of people at risk of diabetes, because their weight is creeping up.

Official statistics show rates of obesity have soared in two decades, rising from 15 per cent in 1993 to 25 per cent now. Almost two thirds of adults are either overweight or obese.

Earlier this year, a major study suggested that one in three Britons has borderline diabetes, putting them at high risk of developing the condition.

The NHS spends £10bn a year treating diabetes, with 3 million sufferers, the majority of whom have type two diabetes, which is linked to obesity.

Mr Stevens said targeted schemes to prevent obesity, by losing weight, had been proven to work, and now needed to be introduced nationally.

"That’s why the NHS is going to be funding a new national programme, proven to work, that will offer tens of thousands of people at risk of diabetes proper support to get healthier, eat better and exercise more," he said.

Major research has found that losing just 5 to 7 per cent of weight can reduce the change of diabetes by nearly 60 per cent, he said.

Mr Stevens said: "If this was a pill we'd be popping it - instead it’s a well-designed programme of exercise, eating well and making smart health choices, and we're going to start making it available free on the NHS."

Such schemes could begin saving the NHS money within three years, experts suggested, reducing the costs of illnesses associated with diabetes and its complications.

NHS organisations which have brought in successful local schemes to prevent diabetes will be asked to register their interest in designing the national programme by the end of the month.

Other schemes backed by Mr Stevens will see companies asked to reward staff who lose weight with shopping vouchers and prizes.

The chief executive of NHS England, who took up post in April has made it a personal mission to prioritise obesity prevention, after losing almost three stone.

Mr Stevens said he had put on 40 lbs while working in the United States, in private healthcare, but was spurred into action by an workplace scheme which gave staff financial incentives to lose weight.

The head of the NHS said he wants to see similar schemes introduced by private companies throughout England.

Mr Stevens said people needed “a little nudge” to introduce healthier habits.

Campaigners said Britain needed to make a collective “new year’s resolution” to reverse current trends, which will mean two thirds of middle-aged men are obese within two decades.

Tam Fry, from the National Obesity Forum, said: “After the all the food and drink consumed yesterday and today I wouldn't be surprised if the UK had caught up with Hungary.”

He urged Britons to take urgent action to shed the pounds.

“We are calling for a national new year's resolution in January to tackle the aftermath of turkey, pud and cake,” he said.

On current trends, 63 per cent of men in their 50s will be obese by 2034, along with 38 per cent of women, official data shows.

If average rates of obesity were brought back to 1993 levels, around five million incidences of disease could be prevented in two decades, official forecasts show.

Meanwhile, more than one third of children are now overweight or obese by the time they leave primary school, NHS figures show.
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Post by mistermack » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:25 am

To some extent, the rise in obesity is a false figure. It's partly caused by the rise in life-expectancy.

People put on weight as they get older, because they get less active. Living to nearly ninety isn't natural.

I'm 64. It's not that I should be thinner. It's that I should be dead by now.
To have the same standards for obesity for a twenty-year-old as a 70-year-old is not really logical.

If they produced obesity figures for the various age groups, that would be more relevant.

I'd still fail though.
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Post by cronus » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:26 am

Glutons should be punished. Eating too much isn't a illness. It is a horrendous personal moral failing. Shut them in a cell and feed them water and bread for six months. Weight will come off. :read:
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Post by Seth » Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:45 am

Scumple wrote:Glutons should be punished. Eating too much isn't a illness. It is a horrendous personal moral failing. Shut them in a cell and feed them water and bread for six months. Weight will come off. :read:
"Glutons?" What's that, a new elemental particle?
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Post by cronus » Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:12 pm

Seth wrote:
Scumple wrote:Glutons should be punished. Eating too much isn't a illness. It is a horrendous personal moral failing. Shut them in a cell and feed them water and bread for six months. Weight will come off. :read:
"Glutons?" What's that, a new elemental particle?
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Post by tattuchu » Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:22 pm

Scumple wrote:
Seth wrote:
Scumple wrote:Glutons should be punished. Eating too much isn't a illness. It is a horrendous personal moral failing. Shut them in a cell and feed them water and bread for six months. Weight will come off. :read:
"Glutons?" What's that, a new elemental particle?
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According to the article, Massachusetts is one of the thinnest states? Wow, that's not saying much for the other states because there are a lot of overweight people here in Massachusetts :?
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 26, 2014 12:58 pm

Seth wrote:Look now for heavily armed Special Weapons Against Fat teams kicking in the door to confiscate that spotted dick.


{snip unattributed article}
As I can't see where the article came from, I assume it came from some hyperbolic 'news-o-tainment' source that you seem to love. In that case, I'm not going to take it too seriously.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:01 pm

mistermack wrote:To some extent, the rise in obesity is a false figure. It's partly caused by the rise in life-expectancy.

People put on weight as they get older, because they get less active. Living to nearly ninety isn't natural.
Old people don't get fatter. They get skinnier. What planet do you live on?? Haven't you been down to the local shops or the beach and seen the state kids and their parents are in these days? 50% of them are fat. This isn't a "false figure".
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Post by cronus » Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:41 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
mistermack wrote:To some extent, the rise in obesity is a false figure. It's partly caused by the rise in life-expectancy.

People put on weight as they get older, because they get less active. Living to nearly ninety isn't natural.
Old people don't get fatter. They get skinnier. What planet do you live on?? Haven't you been down to the local shops or the beach and seen the state kids and their parents are in these days? 50% of them are fat. This isn't a "false figure".
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They get fatter if they are going to die before their seventies, surely it's in a governments financial interest to keep it like that? Shoot all the health fascists and the issue would vanish.
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rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:Look now for heavily armed Special Weapons Against Fat teams kicking in the door to confiscate that spotted dick.


{snip unattributed article}
As I can't see where the article came from, I assume it came from some hyperbolic 'news-o-tainment' source that you seem to love. In that case, I'm not going to take it too seriously.
Google it.
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Post by MrJonno » Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:39 pm

Seems good to me.

Prime role of government is to protect the people from external and internal threats which includes themselves, in fact especially themselves.

Taxation needs to be applied to unhealthy food, to socially engineer a better society (socially engineering is a very good thing)
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Post by laklak » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:11 pm

Social engineering is great if you're the engineer, not so much if you're the engineeree.
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Post by Blind groper » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:37 pm

To Seth, the American who chose to point the finger.

The USA is the country with the highest obesity rate per capita in the world.

England is in number 6 position, which is behind my country (number 4). Mexico is number 2.

Among developed nations, Japan is the one with the least obesity.

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Post by mistermack » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:56 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
mistermack wrote:To some extent, the rise in obesity is a false figure. It's partly caused by the rise in life-expectancy.

People put on weight as they get older, because they get less active. Living to nearly ninety isn't natural.
Old people don't get fatter. They get skinnier. What planet do you live on?? Haven't you been down to the local shops or the beach and seen the state kids and their parents are in these days? 50% of them are fat. This isn't a "false figure".
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As usual you make up your own version of my post. I said as they get older. I didn't say old people.
Yes, when people get past their mid seventies, they might start to get smaller again. Usually as a result of the various health issues that come with being that old.
But obesity levels climb all the way until people get to their seventies.
Maybe not on your planet. But in the real world.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:55 am

Ok, opinion machine. Kids and their parents aren't suffering an obesity epidemic.

Meanwhile, back in the real world...
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