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Just another example of the complex tensions underlying the myriad ways that hominid sexuality intersects with the modern world...
No right or wrong, just inevitable cognitive dissonance...
No right or wrong, just inevitable cognitive dissonance...
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You know how I even know a damn thing about the Skepchicks? You, CES! Through threads like this! That's how!
You are a Skepchick enabler... actually a Skepchick promoter! Were it not for the attention that people like you gave to elevatorgate and the following controversies, do you think Rebecca Watson would have been voted the Most Influential Woman Skeptic (or whatever that title was) that Ayaan Hirsi Ali won last year?
I think she should thank you and Pappa in her acceptance speech!
You are a Skepchick enabler... actually a Skepchick promoter! Were it not for the attention that people like you gave to elevatorgate and the following controversies, do you think Rebecca Watson would have been voted the Most Influential Woman Skeptic (or whatever that title was) that Ayaan Hirsi Ali won last year?
I think she should thank you and Pappa in her acceptance speech!
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Robert_S wrote:You know how I even know a damn thing about the Skepchicks? You, CES! Through threads like this! That's how!
You are a Skepchick enabler... actually a Skepchick promoter! Were it not for the attention that people like you gave to elevatorgate and the following controversies, do you think Rebecca Watson would have been voted the Most Influential Woman Skeptic (or whatever that title was) that Ayaan Hirsi Ali won last year?
I think she should thank you and Pappa in her acceptance speech!
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Er, you do know that this prestigious award is the creation of a FTBlogger, and has an inappropriate number of FTB/skepchicks disconcertingly interspersed with (actually and justifiably) famous feminists (like Hirsi Ali and Jessica Ahlquist)? In any case, Watson takes the honors (undoubtedly for her steadfastness in the face of transgressed elevator mores). I'm uncertain why it isn't just called the Skepchick High Popularity Contest.Robert_S wrote: You are a Skepchick enabler... actually a Skepchick promoter! Were it not for the attention that people like you gave to elevatorgate and the following controversies, do you think Rebecca Watson would have been voted the Most Influential Woman Skeptic (or whatever that title was) that Ayaan Hirsi Ali won last year?
I think she should thank you and Pappa in her acceptance speech!
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Holy cow! The airline should have been fined more than that.
Come on, now. How the hell do they know the phones were in movie mode only? Look at them all. All it would take is one or two idiots to decide this needed to be shared with world right now. Some of them probably did, actually, and it was pure luck it didn't affect flight safety. I wouldn't be at all happy being on a flight where no one stopped the passengers from using their phones like that.
Thang said VJA got the fine for violating the local aviation regulations by organizing an unapproved show on a plane.
When asked if VJA had also violated aviation safety regulation for letting passengers use camera phones to record the three-minute show he said that because the phones were used in movie mode only, they did not affect flight safety.
Come on, now. How the hell do they know the phones were in movie mode only? Look at them all. All it would take is one or two idiots to decide this needed to be shared with world right now. Some of them probably did, actually, and it was pure luck it didn't affect flight safety. I wouldn't be at all happy being on a flight where no one stopped the passengers from using their phones like that.
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The Elevatorgate thing was not originally brought up by me here. I think it was weeks after the event occurred that I became aware of it. I certainly found the event interesting, and worthwhile discussion. But, Elevatorgate went viral long before I became involved.Robert_S wrote:You know how I even know a damn thing about the Skepchicks? You, CES! Through threads like this! That's how!
You are a Skepchick enabler... actually a Skepchick promoter! Were it not for the attention that people like you gave to elevatorgate and the following controversies, do you think Rebecca Watson would have been voted the Most Influential Woman Skeptic (or whatever that title was) that Ayaan Hirsi Ali won last year?
I think she should thank you and Pappa in her acceptance speech!
I didn't know she was voted most influential woman skeptic. If that's correct, then that is, I think, unjustified.
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Well, the reality is that using the phones is not a matter of flight safety. That's bollocks.amok wrote:Holy cow! The airline should have been fined more than that.
Thang said VJA got the fine for violating the local aviation regulations by organizing an unapproved show on a plane.
When asked if VJA had also violated aviation safety regulation for letting passengers use camera phones to record the three-minute show he said that because the phones were used in movie mode only, they did not affect flight safety.
Come on, now. How the hell do they know the phones were in movie mode only? Look at them all. All it would take is one or two idiots to decide this needed to be shared with world right now. Some of them probably did, actually, and it was pure luck it didn't affect flight safety. I wouldn't be at all happy being on a flight where no one stopped the passengers from using their phones like that.
If it was a safety issue, they wouldn't leave it up to a matter of trust to leave phones and tablets on "flight mode." Clearly, they can't monitor everyone. So, if it was a matter of flight safety, terrorists are missing a golden opportunity: have a couple of terrorists go on board with a laptop, phone and tablet each, and then at the precisely choreographed moment, they turn them all on and take them out of airplane mode!
Planes would be crashing all over the place....
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Almost certainly true.Coito ergo sum wrote:
Well, the reality is that using the phones is not a matter of flight safety. That's bollocks.
There was a Mythbusters episode in which the daring duo tested the effects of cell phones on aircraft navigation equipment and other electronics. I am sure you will be astounded to discover that the effect was zero.
The ban on cellphones in planes is based on some very shaky theoretical considerations, and is almost certainly not a problem.
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It's just a control thing for bogus psychological reasons. Much like most of airport security...liquids, body scanners, shoe-removal...good theater, but that's about it.Blind groper wrote:Almost certainly true.Coito ergo sum wrote:
Well, the reality is that using the phones is not a matter of flight safety. That's bollocks.
There was a Mythbusters episode in which the daring duo tested the effects of cell phones on aircraft navigation equipment and other electronics. I am sure you will be astounded to discover that the effect was zero.
The ban on cellphones in planes is based on some very shaky theoretical considerations, and is almost certainly not a problem.
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It's complete and utter bollocks. Why do they perpetuate the myth?
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According to the Mythbusters, the ban on cell phones in planes is just a case of being very, very cautious. They said 1 in a million chance of a new cell phone having an effect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdfQqBAVsfk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdfQqBAVsfk
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But...but...what can we be obsessed with if not the Skepchicks?Bella Fortuna wrote:Good Christ, will you stop being so obsessed with the Skepchicks already?
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I'm sure they would react the same way as always.
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