Teacher Charged With Death Threats to Lawmakers

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Teacher Charged With Death Threats to Lawmakers

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:12 pm

This incivility must be the fault of......?

http://www.breitbart.tv/wisc-teacher-ch ... lawmakers/

Gotta start controlling the rhetoric, methinks.

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Re: Teacher Charged With Death Threats to Lawmakers

Post by Ian » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:15 pm

"Breitbart TV"?
FFS.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:19 pm

Ian wrote:"Breitbart TV"?
FFS.
False report, you say? Breitbart plays a clip of Channel 12 news, which was also aired on television, and it becomes a false report?

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Post by Ian » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:20 pm

I didn't say it was a false report. I'm just amazed that there's such a thing as "Breitbart TV".

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:22 pm

Ian wrote:I didn't say it was a false report. I'm just amazed that there's such a thing as "Breitbart TV".
Oh, gotcha. Well, there's a lot of news out there, and Breitbart has clips of some obscure news sources that are otherwise hard to find sometimes.

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Post by Ian » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:26 pm

I'm sure Shirley Sherrod has some opinion on his idea of "clips".

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Re: Teacher Charged With Death Threats to Lawmakers

Post by .Morticia. » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:28 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:This incivility must be the fault of......?

http://www.breitbart.tv/wisc-teacher-ch ... lawmakers/

Gotta start controlling the rhetoric, methinks.
START????

the rhetoric has been controlled by the right for over a hundred years

and if they can't control it with manipulation and intimidation they get violent


( the brietbart story is a distraction from the lede about academic suppression by the gop in wisc, read about it here
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion ... 2b132.html )
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:17 pm

Ian wrote:I'm sure Shirley Sherrod has some opinion on his idea of "clips".
So? What's the point?

Is the report false? Here, this is a website replaying a news report from a network television station reporting the news. Does it become something less important or less believable because Breitbart replays it?

I don't discount everything MSNBC has to say just because they are an arm of the Democratic Party.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:18 pm

.Morticia. wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:This incivility must be the fault of......?

http://www.breitbart.tv/wisc-teacher-ch ... lawmakers/

Gotta start controlling the rhetoric, methinks.
START????

the rhetoric has been controlled by the right for over a hundred years
LOL - that's rich. The mainstream media in the US is sympathetic with the left, not the right.
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and if they can't control it with manipulation and intimidation they get violent
Who, exactly? Or, are you referring to this teacher who threatened the lives of elected officials?

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Re: Teacher Charged With Death Threats to Lawmakers

Post by Ian » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:33 pm

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Ian wrote:I'm sure Shirley Sherrod has some opinion on his idea of "clips".
So? What's the point?

Is the report false? Here, this is a website replaying a news report from a network television station reporting the news. Does it become something less important or less believable because Breitbart replays it?
Unfortunately yes, and Breitbart only has himself to blame for that.

This doesn't mean I discount everything he or anyone else I don't like might have to say, but when I want objective facts I don't even want to look at the people who start off with an agenda. When I hear information from people like that, I automatically want to verify it against other sources that don't have an overt bias.
The point is: why should I bother trusting anything someone with a biased agenda and a history of publishing misleading information and half-truths has to say? In other words, the point is about credibility. Breitbart might be merely replaying some other news source in its entirety here, but his credibility is for shit, and deservedly so.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:50 pm

Well, your news sources will be few and far between, then.

In this particular instance, there was no editing by Breitbart, so it may as well have been played anywhere. It was just a replay of a news report by Channel 12. It's irrational and silly to poo poo it because it happens to be Breitbart replaying it. That's like not believing the sky is blue because someone you don't like says it. I'd certainly be suspicious of Breitbart if an edited video appeared, but frankly, this is just a plain old distribution of a news report that was created by someone other than Breitbart himself.

We've seen proof of bias by NPR officials and MSNBC sucks the dick of the Democratic Party on a nightly basis - ought we never follow any of their reports?

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Re: Teacher Charged With Death Threats to Lawmakers

Post by .Morticia. » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:01 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
.Morticia. wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:This incivility must be the fault of......?

http://www.breitbart.tv/wisc-teacher-ch ... lawmakers/

Gotta start controlling the rhetoric, methinks.
START????

the rhetoric has been controlled by the right for over a hundred years
LOL - that's rich. The mainstream media in the US is sympathetic with the left, not the right.

examples please
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and if they can't control it with manipulation and intimidation they get violent
Who, exactly? Or, are you referring to this teacher who threatened the lives of elected officials?
Capitalists, who else.

And there is a difference btw a group of who as a matter of standard behaviour are manipulative and threatening and one example of an individual gone troppo for personal reasons.
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Re: Teacher Charged With Death Threats to Lawmakers

Post by Warren Dew » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:15 pm

So when it's someone who is taking Palin's rhetoric too literally, it's a conservative conspiracy, but when it's someone who is taking Capuano's rhetoric too literally, it's fine, eh?

Par for the course, I guess. I'm just glad they caught her before she carried out any of her threats.

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Re: Teacher Charged With Death Threats to Lawmakers

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:20 pm

.Morticia. wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
.Morticia. wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:This incivility must be the fault of......?

http://www.breitbart.tv/wisc-teacher-ch ... lawmakers/

Gotta start controlling the rhetoric, methinks.
START????

the rhetoric has been controlled by the right for over a hundred years
LOL - that's rich. The mainstream media in the US is sympathetic with the left, not the right.

examples please
ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and NPR, New York Times, Newsweek. the Democratic Party received a total donation of $1,020,816, given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks (NBC, CBS, ABC), while the Republican Party received only $142,863 via 193 donations. A 2002 study by Jim A. Kuypers of Dartmouth College, Press Bias and Politics, investigated the issue of media bias. In this study of 116 mainstream US papers, including The New York Times, the Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, and the San Francisco Chronicle, Kuypers stated that the mainstream press in America tends to favor liberal viewpoints. http://web.archive.org/web/200802050620 ... 0917b.html They claimed that reporters who they thought were expressing moderate or conservative points of view were often labeled as holding a minority point of view. A joint study by the Joan Shorenstein Center on Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard University and the Project for Excellence in Journalism found that viewers believe that liberal media bias can be found in television news by networks such as CNN. http://www.journalism.org/files/The%20E ... 0FINAL.pdf
.Morticia. wrote:
.Morticia. wrote:
and if they can't control it with manipulation and intimidation they get violent
Who, exactly? Or, are you referring to this teacher who threatened the lives of elected officials?
.Morticia. wrote: Capitalists, who else.
LOL - it's the capitalists who, for example, break windows at international trade events in Seattle? By all means - cite some examples of capitalists getting violent. Is it the capitalists that stage Black Bloc riots? Who are the antiglobalists that turn over cars and smash the windows of private businesses? Capitalists?

Peaceful left leaning protesters....WTO must go, and we'll set fires and smash your windows to make the point...

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.Morticia. wrote:
.Morticia. wrote:
And there is a difference btw a group of who as a matter of standard behaviour are manipulative and threatening and one example of an individual gone troppo for personal reasons.
That's right - when it's Jared Loughner in Arizona, he's representative of your opponents. This witch up in Wisconsin is just a rogue. Gotcha.
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Re: Teacher Charged With Death Threats to Lawmakers

Post by Santa_Claus » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:25 pm

If you need to issue a death threat - it only says you have no mojo.

Death threats should be implicit not explicit. and if they need explaining, best done afterwards - otherwise you simply risk someone reciprocating first.

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