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Fuck Liberalism

Post by .Morticia. » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:00 pm

looks like Chris Hedges is getting some teeth at last :{D


The liberal class has busied itself with the toothless pursuits of inclusiveness, multiculturalism, identity politics and tolerance—a word Martin Luther King never used—and forgotten about justice. It naively sought to placate ideological and corporate forces bent on the destruction of the democratic state. The liberal class, like the misguided democrats in the former Yugoslavia or the hapless aristocrats in the Weimar Republic, invited the wolf into the henhouse. The liberal class forgot that, as Karl Popper wrote in “The Open Society and Its Enemies,” “If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.”

Workers in this country paid for their rights by suffering brutal beatings, mass expulsions from company housing and jobs, crippling strikes, targeted assassinations of union leaders and armed battles with hired gun thugs and state militias. The Rockefellers, the Mellons, the Carnegies and the Morgans—the Koch Brothers Industries, Goldman Sachs and Wal-Mart of their day—never gave a damn about workers. All they cared about was profit. The eight-hour workday, the minimum wage, Social Security, pensions, job safety, paid vacations, retirement benefits and health insurance were achieved because hundreds of thousands of workers physically fought a system of capitalist exploitation. They rallied around radicals such as “Mother” Jones, United Mine Workers’ President John L. Lewis and “Big” Bill Haywood and his Wobblies as well as the socialist presidential candidate Eugene V. Debs.
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Re: Fuck Liberalism

Post by JimC » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:01 pm

Excellent!

A topic where Seth and sandinista can come together!
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Re: Fuck Liberalism

Post by sandinista » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:20 pm

JimC wrote:Excellent!

A topic where Seth and sandinista can come together!
Oh great, well...here's a tribute to JimC. The "shadiest of political opinions"...the "liberals". Congrats.



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Re: Fuck Liberalism

Post by .Morticia. » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:42 pm

JimC wrote:Excellent!

A topic where Seth and sandinista can come together!
actually, it seems to me that seth is of the ilk that wants to use tolerance to destroy tolerance

just sayin'
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Post by AnInconvenientScotsman » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:59 pm

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Re: Fuck Liberalism

Post by JimC » Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:29 am

Johnny Cash said it all:
"The One On The Right Is On The Left"

There once was a musical troupe
A pickin' singin' folk group
They sang the mountain ballads
And the folk songs of our land

They were long on musical ability
Folks thought they would go far
But political incompatibility led to their downfall

Well, the one on the right was on the left
And the one in the middle was on the right
And the one on the left was in the middle
And the guy in the rear was a Methodist

This musical aggregation toured the entire nation
Singing the traditional ballads
And the folk songs of our land
They performed with great virtuosity
And soon they were the rage
But political animosity prevailed upon the stage

Well, the one on the right was on the left
And the one in the middle was on the right
And the one on the left was in the middle
And the guy in the rear burned his driver's license

Well the curtain had ascended
A hush fell on the crowd
As thousands there were gathered to hear The folk songs of our land
But they took their politics seriously
And that night at the concert hall
As the audience watched deliriously
They had a free-for-all

Well, the one on the right was on the bottom
And the one in the middle was on the top
And the one on the left got a broken arm
And the guy in the rear, said, "Oh dear"

Now this should be a lesson if you plan to start a folk group
Don't go mixin' politics with the folk songs of our land
Just work on harmony and diction
Play your banjo well
And if you have political convictions keep them to yourself

Now, the one on the left works in a bank
And the one in the middle drives a truck
The one on the right's an all-night deejay
And the guy in the rear got drafted
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Re: Fuck Liberalism

Post by sandinista » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:08 am

Politically I'll take Phil Ochs over Johnny Cash any day. Nice try though.
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Post by Warren Dew » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:12 am

.Morticia. wrote:
Workers in this country paid for their rights by suffering brutal beatings, mass expulsions from company housing and jobs, crippling strikes, targeted assassinations of union leaders and armed battles with hired gun thugs and state militias. The Rockefellers, the Mellons, the Carnegies and the Morgans—the Koch Brothers Industries, Goldman Sachs and Wal-Mart of their day—never gave a damn about workers.
Hey, I never heard about Goldman Sachs bankers suffering brutal beatings. Last I heard, they were still getting million dollar bonuses!

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:42 am

Go Hard Left.....You know you want to? :coffee:

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Post by Pensioner » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:52 pm

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“I wish no harm to any human being, but I, as one man, am going to exercise my freedom of speech. No human being on the face of the earth, no government is going to take from me my right to speak, my right to protest against wrong, my right to do everything that is for the benefit of mankind. I am not here, then, as the accused; I am here as the accuser of capitalism dripping with blood from head to foot.”

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Post by redunderthebed » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:05 pm

excellent article and well written!
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Re: Fuck Liberalism

Post by Robert_S » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:37 am

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What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Fuck Liberalism

Post by Atheist-Lite » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:03 am

The liberals are the new pinko commies hiding under the bed. They are the same as the old variety except their snivelling cowards who'll say anything and land anyone in it to avoid a slug from a revolver....unhindered by a ideology of any sort liberals are the kind who'll swap to uniforms and become fascists as soon as the leadership changes in a democracy. Be careful of them in the dangerous times.... :smoke:

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Post by sandinista » Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:47 pm

Crumple wrote:The liberals are the new pinko commies hiding under the bed. They are the same as the old variety except their snivelling cowards who'll say anything and land anyone in it to avoid a slug from a revolver....unhindered by a ideology of any sort liberals are the kind who'll swap to uniforms and become fascists as soon as the leadership changes in a democracy. Be careful of them in the dangerous times.... :smoke:
I am assuming you are joking. Liberals share nothing in common with communists, and liberalism is, most defiantly, and ideology.
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Re: Fuck Liberalism

Post by Atheist-Lite » Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:56 pm

sandinista wrote:
Crumple wrote:The liberals are the new pinko commies hiding under the bed. They are the same as the old variety except their snivelling cowards who'll say anything and land anyone in it to avoid a slug from a revolver....unhindered by a ideology of any sort liberals are the kind who'll swap to uniforms and become fascists as soon as the leadership changes in a democracy. Be careful of them in the dangerous times.... :smoke:
I am assuming you are joking. Liberals share nothing in common with communists, and liberalism is, most defiantly, and ideology.
I know dog owners say their dog is different and doesnt bite unlike the rest of the species and the same goes with the mut liberalism....it never killed anyone, never oppressed anyone and was a ideology of peace & love right until it became clear it was just like the rest. Liberalism tolerates oppression so long as it is out of the media spotlight, look at all the cheap goods made in the highly competitive slave economies of China and the far east? and what does liberalism suggest other than we compete on a even platform by crushing the wages of the low paid in the first word economies? and democracy? a kind of democracy where only certain politcally correct opinions are maintained such as a belief in market solutions to social ills....the roads to peace in the middle east....they are a liberal invention just like liberal workanomics solutions imprisoning and seperating men women and children, entire families torn assunder in Palestine. It makes me want to puke how these liberal slimeballs have combined their oversentimentalised praiseworthy rhetoric with time-honoured oppression the world over.
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