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Court backs decision to bar Christian foster couple
A decision to bar a Christian couple from fostering children because of their views on homosexuality has been backed at the High Court.
Eunice and Owen Johns, 62 and 65, of Derby, said the city council did not want them to become foster carers because of their traditional views.
The couple said they were "doomed not to be approved" because of their views.
The Pentecostal Christian couple had applied to Derby City Council to be respite carers.
'Loving home'
The court heard the couple withdrew their application after a social worker expressed concerns when they said they could not tell a child a homosexual lifestyle was acceptable.
Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson ruled that laws protecting people from discrimination because of their sexual orientation "should take precedence" over the right not to be discriminated against on religious grounds.
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All we were not willing to do was to tell a small child that the practice of homosexuality was a good thing”
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The Johns are considering an appeal.
Derby City Council said previously its first duty was to the children in its care, some of whom were very vulnerable.
Speaking outside the court in London, Mrs Johns said: "All we wanted was to offer a loving home to a child in need. We have a good track record as foster parents.
"We have been excluded because we have moral opinions based on our faith and we feel sidelined because we are Christians with normal, mainstream, Christian views on sexual ethics.
"We are prepared to love and accept any child. All we were not willing to do was to tell a small child that the practice of homosexuality was a good thing."
'Harmful to children'
The couple cared for about 15 children in the 1990s.
Ben Summerskill, chief executive of Stonewall, the lesbian, gay and bisexual charity, said: "Thankfully, Mr and Mrs Johns' out-dated views aren't just out of step with the majority of people in modern Britain, but those of many Christians too.
"If you wish to be involved in the delivery of a public service, you should be prepared to provide it fairly to anyone."
The Christian Legal Centre reacted to the ruling with dismay and warned that "fostering by Christians is now in doubt".
The organisation said the judgment "sends out the clear message that orthodox Christian ethical beliefs are potentially harmful to children and that Christian parents with mainstream Christian views are not suitable to be considered as potential foster parents".
A decision to bar a Christian couple from fostering children because of their views on homosexuality has been backed at the High Court.
Eunice and Owen Johns, 62 and 65, of Derby, said the city council did not want them to become foster carers because of their traditional views.
The couple said they were "doomed not to be approved" because of their views.
The Pentecostal Christian couple had applied to Derby City Council to be respite carers.
'Loving home'
The court heard the couple withdrew their application after a social worker expressed concerns when they said they could not tell a child a homosexual lifestyle was acceptable.
Lord Justice Munby and Mr Justice Beatson ruled that laws protecting people from discrimination because of their sexual orientation "should take precedence" over the right not to be discriminated against on religious grounds.
Continue reading the main story
“Start Quote
All we were not willing to do was to tell a small child that the practice of homosexuality was a good thing”
End Quote Eunice Johns
The Johns are considering an appeal.
Derby City Council said previously its first duty was to the children in its care, some of whom were very vulnerable.
Speaking outside the court in London, Mrs Johns said: "All we wanted was to offer a loving home to a child in need. We have a good track record as foster parents.
"We have been excluded because we have moral opinions based on our faith and we feel sidelined because we are Christians with normal, mainstream, Christian views on sexual ethics.
"We are prepared to love and accept any child. All we were not willing to do was to tell a small child that the practice of homosexuality was a good thing."
'Harmful to children'
The couple cared for about 15 children in the 1990s.
Ben Summerskill, chief executive of Stonewall, the lesbian, gay and bisexual charity, said: "Thankfully, Mr and Mrs Johns' out-dated views aren't just out of step with the majority of people in modern Britain, but those of many Christians too.
"If you wish to be involved in the delivery of a public service, you should be prepared to provide it fairly to anyone."
The Christian Legal Centre reacted to the ruling with dismay and warned that "fostering by Christians is now in doubt".
The organisation said the judgment "sends out the clear message that orthodox Christian ethical beliefs are potentially harmful to children and that Christian parents with mainstream Christian views are not suitable to be considered as potential foster parents".
Re: Don't hate gays? Sorry, you can't foster kids.
Shut up woman, you can't have kids because GOD MADE YOU BARREN OR YOUR HUSBAND NOT A REAL MAN , now accept it ,if god loved you, you would have a child just like Abraham .
YEAH "sends out the clear message that orthodox Christian ethical beliefs are potentially harmful to children ."
YEAH "sends out the clear message that orthodox Christian ethical beliefs are potentially harmful to children ."





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But the article says the opposite of your title 

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Yes - I was confuzzled.rachelbean wrote:But the article says the opposite of your title

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Bout time somebody noticed.Bella Fortuna wrote:Yes - I was confuzzled.rachelbean wrote:But the article says the opposite of your title
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We always notice - we just can rarely be arsed to say anything...Gawdzilla wrote:Bout time somebody noticed.Bella Fortuna wrote:Yes - I was confuzzled.rachelbean wrote:But the article says the opposite of your title
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I'm not saying anything.
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Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Re: Don't hate gays? Sorry, you can't foster kids.
They weren't banned, they withdrew their application, fearing they would be banned. Then they sued.
Christian foster couple lose 'homosexuality views' case
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It was the last paragraph that particularly pleased me:
It was the last paragraph that particularly pleased me:
The organisation said the judgment "sends out the clear message that orthodox Christian ethical beliefs are potentially harmful to children and that Christian parents with mainstream Christian views are not suitable to be considered as potential foster parents".

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I'z a-mergin' 

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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I'z a-mergin'

I only looked in "religion" not "news.
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Geoff wrote:Xamonas Chegwé wrote:I'z a-mergin'
I only looked in "religion" not "news.
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