Americans too dumb to vote

[Tero]

Or know what they are voting for.

I learned this form fox news, so it must be true.
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/poll-1 ... c_12037134

[Feck]

In a country that can't count the votes correctly anyway

[Tero]

Back in September..Rick Ungar said

While someone listening to Rush or watching Beck might well adopt these entertainers’ allergic reaction to anything with the name “Obama” attached to it, a viewer or listener would still likely hear that there are some benefits included in the legislation albeit benefits these conservatives do not feel the nation can afford or benefits they deem undesirable for other reasons.

Of course, anyone watching MSNBC is going to get an earful of the benefits, even if they hear less about the potential problems and costs.

The sad fact found in what this poll is really telling us is that America has become a nation of badly informed citizens – and it is reaching epidemic proportions.

[Seabass]

Back in September..Rick Ungar said

While someone listening to Rush or watching Beck might well adopt these entertainers’ allergic reaction to anything with the name “Obama” attached to it, a viewer or listener would still likely hear that there are some benefits included in the legislation albeit benefits these conservatives do not feel the nation can afford or benefits they deem undesirable for other reasons.

Of course, anyone watching MSNBC is going to get an earful of the benefits, even if they hear less about the potential problems and costs.

The sad fact found in what this poll is really telling us is that America has become a nation of badly informed citizens – and it is reaching epidemic proportions.

"Has become"? You say that as though ignorance is new and/or unique to Americans.

Something I've noticed about American and European polls similar to this is that about 20% of respondents either are insane or like to fuck with pollsters. And if you think those results are bad, go find some third world or 1920 polls.

[JimC]

Back in September..Rick Ungar said

While someone listening to Rush or watching Beck might well adopt these entertainers’ allergic reaction to anything with the name “Obama” attached to it, a viewer or listener would still likely hear that there are some benefits included in the legislation albeit benefits these conservatives do not feel the nation can afford or benefits they deem undesirable for other reasons.

Of course, anyone watching MSNBC is going to get an earful of the benefits, even if they hear less about the potential problems and costs.

The sad fact found in what this poll is really telling us is that America has become a nation of badly informed citizens – and it is reaching epidemic proportions.

To me that also speaks of increasing polarisation...

[Tero]

I think its all too confusing, they barely passed high school:

http://teroreport.blogspot.com/2011/02/ ... using.html

[Tero]

Democrats Unwilling To Learn from Foxnews

Washington, DC -- Citing wimpy reasons such as "it just is not right", Democrats were unwilling to use Foxnews type of disinformation to attempt to gain the public opinion in polls behind their sacred causes of providing for the losers.

[mistermack]

Fox News is a complete misnomer.
Can I recommend Foxeganda?
I think it's closer to the truth.

[Feck]

http://www.turnoffyourtv.com/networks/f ... xnews.html


The content of the Fox News Channel is a direct outgrowth from the views held by its owner: News Corp. and CEO Rupert Murdoch. Fox News Channel was launched in 1996 "as a specific alternative to what its founders perceived as a liberal bias in the American media" (the network stated this in the lawsuit against Al Franken and Penguin books).

Australian-born, but now an American citizen, Murdoch heads the huge News Corp. which owns the Fox TV Network; Fox News; Fox Sports; FX Network; National Geographic Channel; 20th Century Fox movies and home entertainment (including, appropriately, all of the Star Wars films); Fox Sports Australia; the STAR Network in Asia (based in Taiwan); British Sky Broadcasting/BSkyB, DirecTV (U.S.), FOXTEL (Australia), and Sky Italia (Italy) direct broadcast satellite television services; TV Guide magazine; 175 different newspapers in the UK, Australia, Fiji, Papua New Guinea and the U.S.; HarperCollins Publishers; the National Rugby League; Mushroom Records and more. Murdoch has created a worldwide empire.

In October 1999, Time Magazine remarked that "Rupert Murdoch is the first press baron to be a monster of the entire world. That's globalization for you."

The Time article goes on to say that Murdoch's "achievement is that he is the only media mogul to have created and to control a truly global media empire. He understood sooner than anyone else the opportunities offered by new technology--computers, satellites, wireless communications--to create first an international press and then a television domain."

Controlling the news is obviously important to Murdoch's vision of the world. The Murdochian viewpoint is largely centered on obtaining money and power -- which is the ideology for which the Fox News Channel stands. Those who control the news also determine the public discourse. In the United States, Murdoch has obviously tapped into the political and social agenda championed by the Republican Party. The views of News Corp. and Fox News, however, are not the ones of the mainstream Republican Party, but those who reside on the far right-wing of the political spectrum.

The Republican Party, or GOP (Grand Old Party), is a traditionally dominant force in American politics. Since the inception of the nation, the Republican Party has stood for what are called conservative values. Over the centuries, however, the term conservative has changed quite a bit and now has transformed into political party focused on American superpower dominance, a corporate-controlled economy and Judeo-Christian ideals. The Heritage Foundation think tank states that conservative means to promote "the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense." The conservative agenda by itself is not terribly bad; however, the Fox News Channel has contorted the Republican Party views into something both strange and disturbing.

"All across America, there are offices that resemble newsrooms, and in those offices there are people who resemble journalists, but they are not engaged in journalism. It is not journalism because it does not regard the reader — or, in the case of broadcasting, the listener, or the viewer — as a master to be served," said Los Angeles Times Editor John S. Carroll in a Lecture on Ethics delivered at The University of Oregon in May 2004.

"To the contrary," he said, "it regards its audience with a cold cynicism. In this realm of pseudo-journalism, the audience is something to be manipulated. And when the audience is misled, no one in the pseudo-newsroom ever offers a peep of protest."

Carroll goes on to say that journalists of the past such as "Lippmann, Reston, Murrow, Sevareid and others . . . are still held in high regard. They were, foremost, journalists, not entertainers or marketers. Their opinions were rigorously grounded in fact. It was the truthfulness of these commentators — their sheer intellectual honesty — that causes their names to endure. Today, the credibility painstakingly earned by past journalists lends an unearned legitimacy to the new generation of talk show hosts. Cloaked deceptively in the mantle of journalism, today's opinion-brokers are playing a nasty Halloween prank on the public, and indeed on journalism itself."

[mistermack]

Fox news is aimed directly at the lowest intellects. These people don't know the difference between news and propeganda. They are too dumb to know when journalists are taking the piss out of them. So Murdoch must be laughing. He's taking the piss out of his viewers, and they are paying him for the privilege.
As a con-man, he's a true artist.

[maiforpeace]

Fox news is aimed directly at the lowest intellects. These people don't know the difference between news and propeganda. They are too dumb to know when journalists are taking the piss out of them. So Murdoch must be laughing. He's taking the piss out of his viewers, and they are paying him for the privilege.
As a con-man, he's a true artist.

And, the journalists are teaching the viewers to take the piss out of anyone they don't agree with. Such lovely viciousness.

[Tero]

We can dig a little deeper and these things always come out:

[maiforpeace]

We can dig a little deeper and these things always come out:

Did you see this Tero?

[Seth]

Yeah, gotta love the Alinsky tactics of the left when it comes to critically robust evidence of either the ignorance of Americans or the bias of Fox News.

[Tero]

maiforpeace, yeah, now when we want to stick it to the man, we know it is Koch, not the puppet Walker.