Is National Socialism really so bad??

[Santa_Claus]

Ok, before folk start waving dead Jews at me - I am not really interested in re-fighting WWII.

Nor am I expressing love for the Fuerher (Zieg Heil be upon him) - mainly because he was a f#ckin' foreigner. 2 World Wars and 1 World Cup


But, I am wondering how my life and how British Society would change (and whether for the better - overall).


From my understanding (admittedly limited. involving a lot of Old Black & White War Films ) apart from the Genocide and losing a World War didn't seem all that bad. and even factoring in losing a World War (and rather badly at that), having the country divided into 2 and occupied by the Armies of 4 Countries for 50 years. with half of it under Communism.........Germany still seems to have come out of the game ahead of Britain.

BTW I don't think killing Jews or invading Countries is actually in the 10 Commandments of National Socialism - Hitler just made those bits up. bad man.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

No matter what Sandy tells you, it's a bad idea.

[Warren Dew]

From my understanding (admittedly limited. involving a lot of Old Black & White War Films ) apart from the Genocide and losing a World War didn't seem all that bad.

If you don't mind trading away liberty for security, it might not be so bad. It worked better than most other forms of socialism economically, and in its heyday most of the world was trending towards some form of socialism.

The trading away liberty part is a sticking point for me, though.

[Santa_Claus]

At the moment I am FREE to do what the State hasn't made a law about to stop me.

[.Morticia.]

It was based on a religion, not a political ideology.

That's bad.

http://www.shoaheducation.com/nazibeliefs.html

But the moneyed power elite of Weimar Germany thought the NPD preferable to socialism and bankrolled them in elections .

[Pappa]

If you don't mind trading away liberty for security, it might not be so bad.

It doesn't sound qualitatively different to the UK under Tony Blair.

[.Morticia.]

If you don't mind trading away liberty for security, it might not be so bad.

It doesn't sound qualitatively different to the UK under Tony Blair.

It's all fun and games until someone ends up in the concentration camp.

[laklak]

They had great uniforms. Has to count for something.

[FBM]

I think it depends a lot on whose propaganda films you watch.



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[eXcommunicate]

They had great uniforms. Has to count for something.

Yes, very snazzy!

[JimC]

It is an interesting point imagining some form of National Socialism without any nastiness to an ethnic group, and without a tendency to invade one's neighbours. They were, of course, an inextricable part of the Third Reich's version, but it is an interesting bit of political speculation to consider whether they are inevitable components of any form of National Socialism, or just add-ons because of a particular historical contingency...

[Atheist-Lite]

It is an interesting point imagining some form of National Socialism without any nastiness to an ethnic group, and without a tendency to invade one's neighbours. They were, of course, an inextricable part of the Third Reich's version, but it is an interesting bit of political speculation to consider whether they are inevitable components of any form of National Socialism, or just add-ons because of a particular historical contingency...

It always leaves a bad taste in your mouth after you chomp down on the cyanide capsule at the end of the movie.

[Pappa]

It is an interesting point imagining some form of National Socialism without any nastiness to an ethnic group, and without a tendency to invade one's neighbours. They were, of course, an inextricable part of the Third Reich's version, but it is an interesting bit of political speculation to consider whether they are inevitable components of any form of National Socialism, or just add-ons because of a particular historical contingency...

The New Scientist ran a "What if...?" article once and asked some prominent scientists in different fields what they think would be different if the Nazi's had one. I forget most of the responses, but I do remember that it was suggested we wouldn't have global warming, fish stock collapse, and various other environmental problems. Advances in cloning and genetic engineering technologies was mentioned too.

[Tigger]

It is an interesting point imagining some form of National Socialism without any nastiness to an ethnic group, and without a tendency to invade one's neighbours. They were, of course, an inextricable part of the Third Reich's version, but it is an interesting bit of political speculation to consider whether they are inevitable components of any form of National Socialism, or just add-ons because of a particular historical contingency...

The New Scientist ran a "What if...?" article once and asked some prominent scientists in different fields what they think would be different if the Nazi's had one. I forget most of the responses, but I do remember that it was suggested we wouldn't have global warming, fish stock collapse, and various other environmental problems. Advances in cloning and genetic engineering technologies was mentioned too.

Hitler only had one, iirc.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It is an interesting point imagining some form of National Socialism without any nastiness to an ethnic group, and without a tendency to invade one's neighbours. They were, of course, an inextricable part of the Third Reich's version, but it is an interesting bit of political speculation to consider whether they are inevitable components of any form of National Socialism, or just add-ons because of a particular historical contingency...

The New Scientist ran a "What if...?" article once and asked some prominent scientists in different fields what they think would be different if the Nazi's had one. I forget most of the responses, but I do remember that it was suggested we wouldn't have global warming, fish stock collapse, and various other environmental problems. Advances in cloning and genetic engineering technologies was mentioned too.

Hitler only had one, iirc.

Oops, you scored a Bogey on that one.