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Post by sandinista » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:56 pm

I sometimes wonder why amercians seem to be clueless when it comes to history, I suppose if they don't even "believe" in evolution and actually think "god" created humans 10,000 years ago how can I expect them to even have a rough idea of historical facts. 40 percent?? I mean, polls are often BS, but 40%?? This even includes individuals actually IN the government, people RUNNING the country. What a mess.
According to a Gallup poll released last month, 40 percent of Americans believe God is responsible for creating human life in its current form roughly 10,000 years ago.
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Post by Animavore » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:12 pm

Huh, huh. Americans are so dumb.
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Post by tattuchu » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:20 pm

Yeah, I read that of Huffington Post as well. Dunno who conducted that poll, but I hope to Christ it's not accurate. Otherwise, we're fucking doomed :?
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Post by sandinista » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:04 pm

Animavore wrote:Huh, huh. Americans are so dumb.
40 percent of them apparently.
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Post by Geoff » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:09 pm

tattuchu wrote: Dunno who conducted that poll, but I hope to Christ it's not accurate. Otherwise, we're fucking doomed :?
According to a Gallup poll...
It pretty much tallies with other polls I've seen recently, I'm afraid.

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Post by maiforpeace » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:15 pm

Yea, I saw that Bill Maher episode and it was embarrassing...Jack Kingston AND D.L. Hughley believe in creationism.

And please, I would appreciate it if you said 40% of Americans are dumb... 8-)
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Post by Ian » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:22 pm

40% is probably accurate. Or at least a combined 40% believe in creationism or think that it's an equally reasonable theory. The number no doubt goes much higher if you limit the polling to residents of Mississippi and Oklahoma...

I like trend analysis more than static analysis though. What were the numbers looking like thirty years ago, and what will they look like thirty years from now? While we're still lagging behind Europe, it's also clear enough that secularism is growing in the US. So I don't think "we're fucking doomed". For now, we're just fucking embarassed.

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Post by Warren Dew » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:06 am

Ian wrote:While we're still lagging behind Europe, it's also clear enough that secularism is growing in the US.
Can you link to sources to back this up, or are you just guessing? My impression is that young earth creationism has been gaining ground here in the past couple of decades.

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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:07 am

I pray every day that mankind will come to understand the true miracle of evolution. The sad fact is, it looks like my prayers are falling on deaf ears. :nono:
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Post by Geoff » Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:02 pm

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Ian wrote:While we're still lagging behind Europe, it's also clear enough that secularism is growing in the US.
Can you link to sources to back this up, or are you just guessing? My impression is that young earth creationism has been gaining ground here in the past couple of decades.
http://religions.pewforum.org/reports
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:54 pm

Am I the only one that gets annoyed by the question "Do you believe in evolution?" - why can't they ask something like "do you understand the basic concepts of evolution?" - Forget whether they believe it or not, get them to admit to themselves they don't understand it, and that there might be something they can learn.
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Post by Pappa » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:55 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:Am I the only one that gets annoyed by the question "Do you believe in evolution?" - why can't they ask something like "do you understand the basic concepts of evolution?" - Forget whether they believe it or not, get them to admit to themselves they don't understand it, and that there might be something they can learn.
Maybe you'd prefer "Do you have faith in evolution?"?

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Post by Warren Dew » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:43 pm

Geoff wrote:http://religions.pewforum.org/reports
...those Americans who are unaffiliated with any particular religion have seen the greatest growth in numbers as a result of changes in affiliation.
Pew's "unaffiliated" includes "religious unaffiliated", so it may not be a great marker for secularism. At 16%, it's also rather too small to include most of the people who believe in evolution.

The same sentence says that the biggest drop was in Catholicism, which given the Catholic church is happy with evolution, seems to me a net loss on the question.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:28 pm

According to a survey of Canadians - 26% believe in Creationism and another 34% believe that God guided evolution: http://www.canadianchristianity.com/nat ... ution.html

So - 60% of Canadians think "goddidit" - if that makes you feel that your country is "smarter" then more power to you.

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