Warsi: Bigotry against Muslims now 'acceptable'

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Warsi: Bigotry against Muslims now 'acceptable'

Post by Lozzer » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:01 pm

Prejudice against Muslims has "passed the dinner-table test" and become socially acceptable in the UK, a senior Conservative is to say.

Baroness Warsi, co-chairman of the Tory Party, will warn against dividing Muslims into moderates and extremists.

The baroness, the first Muslim woman to serve in the cabinet, will say such labels fuel misunderstanding.

She will use a speech at Leicester University to accuse the media of superficial discussion of Islam.

Baroness Warsi will say anti-Muslim prejudice is now seen by many Britons as normal and uncontroversial, and she will use her position to fight an "ongoing battle against bigotry".

In extracts of the speech, published in the Daily Telegraph, the peer blames "the patronising, superficial way faith is discussed in certain quarters, including the media", for making Britain a less tolerant place for believers.

She is expected to reveal that she raised the issue of Islamophobia with Pope Benedict XVI during his visit to Britain last year, urging him to "create a better understanding between Europe and its Muslim citizens".

'Social rejection'
The BBC's religious affairs correspondent Robert Pigott said Baroness Warsi is to say publicly what many Muslims privately complain about - that prejudice against them does not attract the social stigma attached to prejudice against other religious and ethnic groups.

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"Lady Warsi has broached the issue before," Robert Pigott says.

"She told the 2009 Conservative Party conference that anti-Muslim hatred had become Britain's last socially acceptable form of bigotry, and claimed in a magazine article last October that taking a pop at the Muslim community in the media sold papers and didn't really matter."

In her speech, she is expected to say the description of Muslims as either moderate or extremist encourages false assumptions.

"It's not a big leap of imagination to predict where the talk of 'moderate' Muslims leads; in the factory, where they've just hired a Muslim worker, the boss says to his employees: 'Not to worry, he's only fairly Muslim'," she will say.

"In the school, the kids say: 'The family next door are Muslim but they're not too bad'.

"And in the road, as a woman walks past wearing a burka, the passers-by think: 'That woman's either oppressed or is making a political statement'."

Baroness Warsi will say terror offences committed by a small number of Muslims should not be used to condemn all who follow Islam.

But she will also urge Muslim communities to be clearer about their rejection of those who resort to violent acts.

"Those who commit criminal acts of terrorism in our country need to be dealt with not just by the full force of the law," she will say.

"They also should face social rejection and alienation across society and their acts must not be used as an opportunity to tar all Muslims."

Asked about Baroness Warsi's speech, a No 10 spokesman said she was expressing the view that there needed to be a debate "about the issue of radicalisation in Great Britain and terrorism".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12235237

I think the best rebuke came from the Daily Mash:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/index.php ... &Itemid=81
BARONESS Warsi will today be asked to explain why some Muslim countries lock you up for having naked fun with someone you have just met.

The only crime here is the scrawny beard and hippy necklace
As the UK's first female muslim cabinet member accused Britain of anti-muslim prejudice, Dubai inconveniently locked up a British woman for having it off with a man by whom she is not legally owned.

In a keynote speech, the co-chairman of the Tory Party will say that foul-mouthed, anti-muslim slogans have now been scratched onto the majority of Britain's dining room tables.
But experts have stressed that anti-Islamic intolerance may be directly proportional to the number of news stories about stonings, honour killings and throwing people in jail for having secular orgasms.

Tom Logan, professor of complicated issues at Reading University, said: "Baroness Warsi may say these are cultural rather than religious values and these countries are behaving in a way that is not truly muslim. But they say they are and it's reasonable to assume they know as much about Islam as she does.

"She also complains about dividing muslims into extremists and moderates, but I do that with Christians as well. And, for that matter, cricket fans, environmentalists and people who watch Masterchef.

"There's nothing wrong with not liking extremism, though at some point you do have to decide what it actually is. And I would say it covers things like Nick Griffin, the Daily Mail, honour killings, sending long, emotional letters to failed Masterchef contestants and handing out jail sentences for casual fucking."

He added: "When someone says 'it's okay, they're not very muslim' they're not saying 'it's okay, they'll have a sneaky glass of cider' they're saying 'it's okay, they're not very supportive of imprisoning women who have been raped'.

"A lot of people have a problem with rape victims being jailed, particularly on religious grounds. That doesn't make you a Nazi. It actually makes you the opposite of a Nazi.

"Which I suppose would make you a gay, Jewish gypsy who hates motorways and violence.

"Which actually sounds rather lovely."
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Re: Warsi: Bigotry against Muslims the last 'bigotry'

Post by Feck » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:24 pm

Ah! so know we are supposed to be respectful for having a weak faith ? Like that's a good thing! it's bad enough when christians chose to ignore almost all of the Old testament and interpret most of the new ... but still claim a faith and still object to the truth .With the Koran I see it as even worse ,as it is so definite so black and white ,it has never been given a moderate interpretation surely you must either BELIEVE it or not . If you believe the koran ,if you think that mo'Hamhead had a direct line to GOD and spoke the truth that the stories about him are true and wish to live accordingly then you ARE an evil shit please kill yourself (and just yourself ) If you Don't believe that the laws rules examples and attitudes written down in the koran are all true then you are not a muslim .
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Re: Warsi: Bigotry against Muslims now 'acceptable'

Post by Warren Dew » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:27 pm

Sadly, bigotry against muslims certainly seems accepted on atheist forums.

Her primary point ought to be the one to other muslims, though, to dissociate themselves from muslim extremists. If you don't want to be judged based on your religion, you ought not identify yourself based on your religion.

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Re: Warsi: Bigotry against Muslims now 'acceptable'

Post by klr » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:53 pm

Strange. Every time I see that mad bat on TV, that's how I feel. :tea:
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Re: Warsi: Bigotry against Muslims now 'acceptable'

Post by charlou » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:56 pm

the article in the OP wrote:Tom Logan, professor of complicated issues at Reading University, said:
... and it only gets better from there ... :mrgreen:
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