Cuba's Fidel Castro criticises Iran over anti-Semitism

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Cuba's Fidel Castro criticises Iran over anti-Semitism

Post by klr » Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:37 pm

... and also admits that all that nuclear sabre-rattling back when wasn't worth it:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11226158
Fidel Castro has criticised Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for what he called his anti-Semitic attitudes.

The former Cuban leader also warned that an escalating conflict between Iran and the West could lead to nuclear war.

Mr Castro, speaking to a US journalist, also questioned his own actions during the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962.

Asked if he stood by his recommendation for the Soviets to bomb America, he said "it wasn't worth it at all".

Mr Castro was speaking to Jeffrey Goldberg, a journalist with The Atlantic magazine based in Washington, DC, whom he personally invited to Cuba.

Mr Castro led Cuba for almost 50 years after toppling the government in a revolution. He fell ill in 2006 and handed power to his brother Raul in 2008. Since then, his public appearances have been rare, but in recent months he has made a series of public speeches and televised appearances.
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Mr Castro's "body may be frail, but his mind is acute, his energy level is high", wrote Goldberg on his blog on The Atlantic website.

Over the course of a five-hour discussion, Mr Castro "repeatedly returned to his excoriation of anti-Semitism", and criticised Mr Ahmadinejad for denying the Holocaust.

"The Jews have lived an existence that is much harder than ours. There is nothing that compares to the Holocaust," the former president said.

Mr Castro said that Iran could further the cause of peace by "acknowledging the 'unique' history of anti-Semitism and trying to understand why Israelis fear for their existence", Mr Goldberg wrote.

Mr Castro told Mr Goldberg that he understood Iranian fears of Israeli-American aggression and that he did not believe that sanctions and threat would dissuade Iran from pursuing nuclear weapons.

"The Iranian capacity to inflict damage is not appreciated," Mr Castro said. "Men think they can control themselves but [US President Barack] Obama could overreact and a gradual escalation could become a nuclear war."

Mr Castro has recently made a number of warnings of the danger of a nuclear war between the West and Iran.

Mr Goldberg then questioned Mr Castro about his stance during the Missile Crisis of 1962, asking if he stood by his recommendation that the Soviets bomb the US.

"After I've seen what I've seen, and knowing what I know now, it wasn't worth it all," he said.
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Re: Cuba's Fidel Castro criticises Iran over anti-Semitism

Post by kiki5711 » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:47 pm

And the journalist's name is Goldberg. :smoke:

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Post by klr » Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:57 pm

kiki5711 wrote:And the journalist's name is Goldberg. :smoke:
That fact did not escape my attention. :hehe:
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Fidel Castro on Iran

Post by Lozzer » Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:40 pm

Fidel Castro has accused Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, of antisemitism, in a passionate defence of Israel's right to exist. Cuba's retired president, a longtime critic of Israeli government policy, said Jews had been slandered and slaughtered for centuries whereas Muslims were not blamed for anything.

The 83-year-old comandante criticised Ahmadinejad for denying the Holocaust and urged Tehran to acknowledge the "unique" history of antisemitism and understand why Israelis feared for their existence.

The comments will sting Iran's president and could prove awkward for Venezuela's Hugo Chávez and Brazil's Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, two presidents who revere Castro and have forged close ties with Ahmadinejad.

Castro made his comments to Jeffrey Goldberg, a journalist with The Atlantic, whom he summoned to Havana after reading one of his articles about the Middle East.

Goldberg brought Julia Sweig, a Cuba expert at the Council on Foreign Relations, and the two talked with Castro over three days last month. The journalist's blog on the encounters, posted today, revealed the first details of the encounter.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internationa ... ews/62566/

In recent months Castro has repeatedly warned that the US and Israel were edging the world towards a nuclear catastrophe in their confrontation with Iran. But he surprised his visitors by dwelling on the historic injustices suffered by Jews. Iran, he said, should understand the Jews were expelled from their land and mistreated all over the world as the ones who killed God. "The Jews have lived an existence that is much harder than ours. There is nothing that compares to the Holocaust."

Castro continued: "I don't think anyone has been slandered more than the Jews. I would say much more than the Muslims. They have been slandered much more than the Muslims because they are blamed and slandered for everything. No one blames the Muslims for anything." Asked what he would tell Ahmadinejad face to face, Castro replied: "I am saying this so you can communicate it."He reminisced about being a young boy and overhearing classmates saying Jews killed Jesus Christ. "I didn't know what a Jew was. I knew of a bird that was a called a 'Jew,' and so for me the Jews were those birds. This is how ignorant the entire population was."

The Cuban said nuclear powers, including Israel, should disarm and that he understood Iranian fears of Israeli-American aggression. "Iranians are not going to back down in the face of threats. That's my opinion."

Goldberg said Castro's body was frail but his mind was acute and energy levels high. "And not only that: the late-stage Fidel Castro turns out to possess something of a self-deprecating sense of humour. When I asked him, over lunch, to answer what I've come to think of as the Christopher Hitchens question – has your illness caused you to change your mind about the existence of God? – he answered, 'Sorry, I'm still a dialectical materialist.'"

Goldberg also asked Castro what he now thought about his recommendation to the Soviet Union to bomb the US during the 1962 Cuban missile crisis. "After I've seen what I've seen, and knowing what I know now, it wasn't worth it
He's broadcasting some very mature and reasonable statements for one of the world's most prolific dictators. He he my respect!
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Re: Fidel Castro on Iran

Post by Warren Dew » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:57 pm

Either that, or he's pandering to a Jewish reporter.

Either way, there was already a thread on this:

http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 22&t=16822


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Post by Warren Dew » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:01 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Castro states that Cuban economic system doesn't work: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100908/ap_ ... del_castro
And it only took him 50 years to figure that out....

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Re: Fidel Castro on Iran

Post by Pappa » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:01 pm

Warren Dew wrote:Either way, there was already a thread on this:

http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 22&t=16822
Merged. :tup:
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Re: Cuba's Fidel Castro criticises Iran over anti-Semitism

Post by Animavore » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:01 pm

Castro's been making a lot of statements recently...

What's the commie bastard at?
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Post by AnInconvenientScotsman » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:07 pm

lol He thinks he's still important :awesome:

He's just repeating what most of us have been saying for years: meh
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Post by Animavore » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:10 pm

He's still a legend :hmph:
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Animavore wrote:He's still a legend :hmph:
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leo-rcc wrote:
Animavore wrote:He's still a legend :hmph:
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Re: Cuba's Fidel Castro criticises Iran over anti-Semitism

Post by Pappa » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:15 pm

Anyone fancy pointing me in the direction of what they believe is a fair and balanced account of Cuba's record on human rights? I've always admired some of Cuba's strategies for dealing with being shut off from the world, and they way they've heavily invested in healthcare.
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Post by Warren Dew » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:06 pm

Pappa wrote:Anyone fancy pointing me in the direction of what they believe is a fair and balanced account of Cuba's record on human rights?
The wikipedia article is probably a good starting point:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba

Be warned that some people consider the article biased, justifying that view with comments on the talk page like this:
wikipedia wrote:'Human rights' are propaganda made by the bourgeoisie ruling class to discredit revolutionary class struggle in countries around the world. The 'rights' of the exploiters and oppressors of humanity should be discussed here, why should capitalists be entitled to anything except death?

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