Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

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Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

Post by Lozzer » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:01 pm

Did anyone else catch this? It was quite depressing. I've come to the conclusion that if you interbreed with your cousins in full knowledge of the risks: you deserve every infliction from the pain and suffering you've imposed onto your own children.
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Re: Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

Post by PsychoSerenity » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:13 pm

No I missed it, but I did see the advert, and it surprised me. I always assumed it would take quite a few generations (10ish) for negative genetic effects to show from first-cousin inbreeding - and two or three from siblings. But I have no idea where I got that assumption from. Does anyone know how much inbreeding it takes to cause problems? Or even how to quantify inbred-edness?
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Re: Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

Post by Lozzer » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:16 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:No I missed it, but I did see the advert, and it surprised me. I always assumed it would take quite a few generations (10ish) for negative genetic effects to show from first-cousin inbreeding - and two or three from siblings. But I have no idea where I got that assumption from. Does anyone know how much inbreeding it takes to cause problems? Or even how to quantify inbred-edness?
Because they're Pakistani there's sufficient genetic background to have such a prolific problem within the Islamic community. Of course, theyse obscurantist morons have difficulty understanding this.
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Re: Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

Post by maiforpeace » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:21 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:No I missed it, but I did see the advert, and it surprised me. I always assumed it would take quite a few generations (10ish) for negative genetic effects to show from first-cousin inbreeding - and two or three from siblings. But I have no idea where I got that assumption from. Does anyone know how much inbreeding it takes to cause problems? Or even how to quantify inbred-edness?
All it takes is one generation. The offspring of first-cousins can be perfectly healthy, but the likelihood of miscarriage and congenital problems are increased, and become greater the closer the relatives are.
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Re: Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

Post by Feck » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:39 pm

Psychoserenity wrote:No I missed it, but I did see the advert, and it surprised me. I always assumed it would take quite a few generations (10ish) for negative genetic effects to show from first-cousin inbreeding - and two or three from siblings. But I have no idea where I got that assumption from. Does anyone know how much inbreeding it takes to cause problems? Or even how to quantify inbred-edness?

If one of your Grandparents has a recessive gene there is a 1/8 chance that your cousin will have the same gene ....We all carry many bad genes but because we have another working copy we never know . If your parents were cousins and you too marry a cousin then it's highly likely your children will have problems .

and Lozzer the parents and families may "deserve" the problems in your opinion(evil fucking attitude BTW ) but the children are innocent .
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Post by Lozzer » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:47 pm

and Lozzer the parents and families may "deserve" the problems in your opinion(evil fucking attitude BTW ) but the children are innocent .
I never said the children weren't innocent, merely that the parents deserve the suffering they've inflicted. And why is it "evil"? Many of these people are flippant anti-science morons.
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Re: Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

Post by Feck » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:54 pm

It's simple make cousin marriages illegal .

no persuading people, no pussyfooting around other peoples culture, make it illegal Now . If you want to marry a cousin you are already an idiot, what chance do your children have ?

The good news is that if Muslims keep this up then soon none of them will have the brains left to connect a battery to a detonator .

Because Lozzer it is fucking nasty to say to a woman that may have been forced to a greater or lesser degree into a marriage by her family that she Derserves to have disabled children. Even flippant anti-science morons don't deserve that .
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Post by PsychoSerenity » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:55 pm

Feck wrote:
Psychoserenity wrote:No I missed it, but I did see the advert, and it surprised me. I always assumed it would take quite a few generations (10ish) for negative genetic effects to show from first-cousin inbreeding - and two or three from siblings. But I have no idea where I got that assumption from. Does anyone know how much inbreeding it takes to cause problems? Or even how to quantify inbred-edness?
If one of your Grandparents has a recessive gene there is a 1/8 chance that your cousin will have the same gene ....We all carry many bad genes but because we have another working copy we never know . If your parents were cousins and you too marry a cousin then it's highly likely your children will have problems .
OK thanks, good to know. :tup:


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Post by RuleBritannia » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:59 pm

As far as I'm concerned, incest between consenting adults is a victimless crime. Inbreeding is a different issue and should be treated as such.
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Post by Feck » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:05 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:As far as I'm concerned, incest between consenting adults is a victimless crime. Inbreeding is a different issue and should be treated as such.
Fine fuck your sister then but unless one of you has been sterilised it is a horrible thing to do .
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Post by RuleBritannia » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:06 pm

Feck wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:As far as I'm concerned, incest between consenting adults is a victimless crime. Inbreeding is a different issue and should be treated as such.
Fine fuck your sister then but unless one of you has been sterilised it is a horrible thing to do .
LOL, overreact much?
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Re: Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

Post by Lozzer » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:15 pm

Feck wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:As far as I'm concerned, incest between consenting adults is a victimless crime. Inbreeding is a different issue and should be treated as such.
Fine fuck your sister then but unless one of you has been sterilised it is a horrible thing to do .
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Re: Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

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and that is just the small list that I could find in a hurry
Isn't it just easier to avoid inbreeding by avoiding incest ?
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Re: Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

Post by Lozzer » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:20 pm

Bernard–Soulier syndrome
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Re: Dispatches: First-cousin marriages

Post by PsychoSerenity » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:24 pm

Feck wrote: ...
and that is just the small list that I could find in a hurry
Isn't it just easier to avoid inbreeding by avoiding incest ?
What are abortions for? :what?:
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