NHS 'to undergo radical overhaul'

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NHS 'to undergo radical overhaul'

Post by klr » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:43 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/10557996.stm
The NHS in England is to undergo a major restructuring in one of the biggest shake-ups in its history, the government has announced.

Hospitals are to be moved out of the NHS to create a "vibrant" industry of social enterprises under the proposals.

And, as expected, GPs are to take charge of much of the budget.

The move will lead to the abolition of all 10 strategic health authorities and the 152 management bodies known as primary care trusts.

The new structure will be held accountable by an independent NHS board which would be free from political interference, the government said.

Meanwhile, responsibility for public health will be passed to local authorities.

In many ways, the plans outlined in a White Paper go further than expected. The coalition agreement had promised no top-down reorganisations.

But Health Secretary Andrew Lansley said he had decided to go further than first envisaged to rid the health service of bureaucracy.

He said the proposals would be challenging and turn the NHS "upside down" but in doing so help reduce management costs by nearly a half within four years.

He added: "The government's ambition is for health outcomes - and quality services - that are among the best in the world."
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The GP move had long been championed by Mr Lansley - and in recent months the British Medical Association had indicated it was willing to work with him on the idea.

The plans mean GPs working in groups will be in charge of a vast collection of hospital, mental health and community services - although specialist services and dentistry will not fall under their remit.

Under the new system, the independent board will sit above as many as 500 consortiums of GPs to set standards and hold the groups to account.

Another key aspect of the changes involves giving patients more information and choice. To achieve this, a new body, HealthWatch, will be set up to compile data on performance, while GP boundaries will be abolished to allow patients to register with any doctor they want.

Mr Lansley also announced he expected all NHS trusts, which run hospitals and mental health units, to get foundation status by 2013.

He also said he would be relaxing the rules which cap the amount of income a trust can make outside the NHS, opening the door to them seeing more private patients.

He said this would allow them to innovate and widen the scope of what they did, but he also admitted it would mean those which were not financially viable could go under.

The government will now consult on its plans before rolling them out over the next three years.

Professor Chris Ham, chief executive of the King's Fund think-tank, said: "It is a very radical programme. We have never seen anything like this since the inception of the NHS in 1948."

But he said the moves were not without risk, pointing out some GPs would not have the skills to manage the budget.

Shadow health secretary Andy Burnham went further, describing the changes as a "political experiment".

"It is a huge gamble with a NHS that is working well for patients."

There was a mixed reaction from NHS staff. Unison said the changes could lead to "chaos", but the BMA said they could benefit patients and it was looking forward to working with ministers.

Katherine Murphy, of the Patients Association, called for more clarity over how and what information would be provided to patients.

"We need more details," she added.
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Re: NHS 'to undergo radical overhaul'

Post by klr » Mon Jul 12, 2010 9:52 pm

Needless to say, this is a hot item on Newsnight right now.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:27 pm

I will give it 2 years before the first group of doctors (almost certainly of the islamic persuasion) are prosecuted for siphoning funds into their own accounts. :tea:
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Post by Lozzer » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:40 pm

Can someone clarify for me, is this privitization of the NHS?
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Re: NHS 'to undergo radical overhaul'

Post by RuleBritannia » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:44 pm

Lozzer wrote:Can someone clarify for me, is this privitization of the NHS?
Is that Americanisation of your spelling?
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Post by Pappa » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:47 pm

The Tories seem to have a pretty sucessful propaganda machine. Everything I've seen them do so far has been to do with shrinkage of the state, always cleverly disguised as something else.

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Post by Lozzer » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:50 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:
Lozzer wrote:Can someone clarify for me, is this privitization of the NHS?
Is that Americanisation of your spelling?
Fuck.
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Re: NHS 'to undergo radical overhaul'

Post by Feck » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:51 pm

Well the NHS could with a few thousand less managers I think they have a manager for every Doctor :ddpan: ....We found out that the manager in charge of allocation of stationary contracts had managed to get the hospital supplied by a company that charged more than the local corner shop did for pens and paperclips etc

Guess he earned his mid management size salary .
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Post by RuleBritannia » Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:57 pm

Of cause the NHS needs less paper pushers it's completely top heavy. But GPs are not accountants, they're doctors.
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Post by Feck » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:00 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:Of cause the NHS needs less paper pushers it's completely top heavy. But GPs are not accountants, they're doctors.
True but if the NHS cut down on needless forms and surveys etc then A group of Doctors could hire the staff they needed .
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Post by Azathoth » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:04 pm

He also said he would be relaxing the rules which cap the amount of income a trust can make outside the NHS, opening the door to them seeing more private patients.

He said this would allow them to innovate and widen the scope of what they did, but he also admitted it would mean those which were not financially viable could go under.
This is the worrying bit. Since when were hospitals supposed to make a profit?
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Post by RuleBritannia » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:09 pm

Ghatanothoa wrote:
He also said he would be relaxing the rules which cap the amount of income a trust can make outside the NHS, opening the door to them seeing more private patients.

He said this would allow them to innovate and widen the scope of what they did, but he also admitted it would mean those which were not financially viable could go under.
This is the worrying bit. Since when were hospitals supposed to make a profit?
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Post by drl2 » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:21 pm

Ghatanothoa wrote: This is the worrying bit. Since when were hospitals supposed to make a profit?
Careful... quotes like that will make Coito's head explode, and he'll have to go to one of our 37th-ranked for-profit hospitals! :cry:
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:23 am

The key thing is we have David Tredinnick on the Health Select Committee now (Astrology software bought on expenses, wants homeopathy and lots of other woo on NHS, believes blood doesn't clot when its a full moon) so what could possibly go wrong?
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