Pope blames the church's sins for sex scandal

[Coito ergo sum]

Pope blames church's own sins for sex scandal

AP – ** Alternate Crop ** Portuguese First Lady Maria Cavaco Silva kisses the hand of Pope Benedict XVI while …
By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer – Tue May 11, 11:25 am ET
LISBON, Portugal – Pope Benedict XVI on Tuesday blamed the church's own sins for the clerical abuse scandal — not a campaign mounted by outsiders — and called for profound purification to end what he called the "greatest persecution" the church has endured.
His strong comments placed responsibility for the crisis squarely on the sins of pedophile priests, repudiating the Vatican's initial response to the scandal in which it blamed the media as well as pro-choice and pro-gay marriage advocates for mounting what it called a campaign against the church and the pope.
Speaking en route to Portugal, Benedict said the Catholic church had always suffered from problems of its own making but that "today we see it in a truly terrifying way."
"The greatest persecution of the church doesn't come from enemies on the outside but is born from the sins within the church," the pontiff said. "The church needs to profoundly relearn penitence, accept purification, learn forgiveness but also justice."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100511/ap_ ... tugal_pope

Now, I'm not Catholic, but isn't this just the first step toward forgiveness? Admission of guilt, right? But, that's not all of it.

According the Catechism, "Penance requires . . . the sinner to endure all things willingly, be contrite of heart, confess with the lips, and practice complete humility and fruitful satisfaction." * * *

"Many sins wrong our neighbor. One must do what is possible in order to repair the harm (e.g., return stolen goods, restore the reputation of someone slandered, pay compensation for injuries). Simple justice requires as much. But sin also injures and weakens the sinner himself, as well as his relationships with God and neighbor. Absolution takes away sin, but it does not remedy all the disorders sin has caused.62 Raised up from sin, the sinner must still recover his full spiritual health by doing something more to make amends for the sin: he must "make satisfaction for" or "expiate" his sins. This satisfaction is also called "penance."

So, it's not enough that these pederast monsters pay, through the church, money damages in compensation, but they need to do something more to make amends for the sins. Shouldn't the Pope be announcing what the church will do as part of this penance?

The Catechism goes on, "The penance the confessor imposes must take into account the penitent's personal situation and must seek his spiritual good. It must correspond as far as possible with the gravity and nature of the sins committed. It can consist of prayer, an offering, works of mercy, service of neighbor, voluntary self-denial, sacrifices, and above all the patient acceptance of the cross we must bear."

So, what more will the church be doing to serve the world, and engage in works of mercy? It can't be just what the church has been doing all along. These monster rapist priests must go out there in full admission of what they did, pray for forgiveness, pay damages to make up for the injury to the fullest extent, and personally do works of mercy, offerings of service, make sacrifices and all that sort of thing.

They can't sweep this shit under the rug and be true to their word, and follow the same rules they impose on confessing sinners.

What I think complies with the Catechism on confessions would be:

1. Complete admission by pedophile priests of their crimes;
2. Guilty pleas by all who did the deeds;
3. Payment of millions of dollars in damages for each victim
4. Payment of millions of dollars in damages for each victim's family members
5. Voluntary service by the church, by all the pedophiles, and by all those involved in covering up the crimes to do good deeds all over the worlds for the rest of their natural born lives to begin to make up for the lives they've wrecked.

That would be a good start.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

+Ratzinger's head on a platter.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

Someone else created the sin, so we all have to pay the price.

Shit happens.

[RuleBritannia]

Pope's a twat, what else is new?

[Tails Turrosaki]

Somebody's suing the Pope. That's new.

[Chinaski]

The fucker's trying to distance himself from the fuckers.

[Link]

The fucker's trying to distance himself from the fuckers.

What a fucking motherfucker!

[Coito ergo sum]

I think someone just needs to call out the church and the pederast, rapist priests on what their obligations are under the rules they impose on their "flock" (whom they fleece and cut up for meat, apparently, like sheep are generally used for).

They want to admit their "sins?" Well, there is hardly a sin that compares to assaulting, battering, raping, sodomizing (an "abomination" under Catholic dogma), and then lying, covering up, bearing false witness, having sex outside of marriage, oath breaking (priestly vows), coveting they altar boys anus, lust, avarice, and a host of other sins all wrapped up in this pedophile priest scandal. If it's penance their rule would require of a parishioner, then they fucking damn well better start paying their penance now!

Admit guilt.
Show sincere contrition.
Pay for the damage done (which is incalculable)
Open up all the church records of all accusations of priest pedophilia to law enforcement
Tell priests they must admit their guilt before public authorities and face their civil and criminal music.
And, then do MORE to make amends for the horrid actions, including doing service to the community (neighbors), and all sorts of other public actions to make up for it.

There must be no "getting past" this shit, or "putting it behind" the church. The church claims a higher spiritual authority, then they better damn well show it.

[Chinaski]

Or just shut down the entire organization due to a systematic violation of human rights and deliberate deception of people.

[Pappa]

Or just shut down the entire organization due to a systematic violation of human rights and deliberate deception of people.

While I disagree with that.... that is exactly what they'd do if it wasn't a hugely powerful and influential religion.

[charlou]

"The greatest persecution of the church doesn't come from enemies on the outside but is born from the sins within the church," the pontiff said. "The church needs to profoundly relearn penitence, accept purification, learn forgiveness but also justice."

It's this attitude that has given rise to the problem. The notions of sin and purity ... that sexuality involves either ...

[Coito ergo sum]

"The greatest persecution of the church doesn't come from enemies on the outside but is born from the sins within the church," the pontiff said. "The church needs to profoundly relearn penitence, accept purification, learn forgiveness but also justice."

It's this attitude that has given rise to the problem. The notions of sin and purity ... that sexuality involves either ...

I found it odd that even with all the criticism of the church that the Pope still can't seem to wrap his head around the fact that the issue is not "persecution of the church." It's the church's persecution of young boys, girls and nuns. The goal of the church here is not primarily to make up for the rapes and other "sins," but to end the persecution of the church.

They won't truly understand the issue until they realize that whether the church is being persecuted is secondary to their need to stop fucking little boys up the ass and to repay and atone for all the ass raping they've done in the past. It's that simple.

[The Dawktor]

I found it odd that even with all the criticism of the church that the Pope still can't seem to wrap his head around the fact that the issue is not "persecution of the church." It's the church's persecution of young boys, girls and nuns. The goal of the church here is not primarily to make up for the rapes and other "sins," but to end the persecution of the church.

They won't truly understand the issue until they realize that whether the church is being persecuted is secondary to their need to stop fucking little boys up the ass and to repay and atone for all the ass raping they've done in the past. It's that simple.

I agree

[JimC]

"The greatest persecution of the church doesn't come from enemies on the outside but is born from the sins within the church," the pontiff said. "The church needs to profoundly relearn penitence, accept purification, learn forgiveness but also justice."

It's this attitude that has given rise to the problem. The notions of sin and purity ... that sexuality involves either ...

I found it odd that even with all the criticism of the church that the Pope still can't seem to wrap his head around the fact that the issue is not "persecution of the church." It's the church's persecution of young boys, girls and nuns. The goal of the church here is not primarily to make up for the rapes and other "sins," but to end the persecution of the church.

They won't truly understand the issue until they realize that whether the church is being persecuted is secondary to their need to stop fucking little boys up the ass and to repay and atone for all the ass raping they've done in the past. It's that simple.

+1...

Right now, they are still trying for spin...

[Coito ergo sum]

And, now the Obama Administration has seen fit to file an amicus brief in a pedophile priest case in an attempt to protect the Vatican from the lawsuit. The Administration is arguing that the "Holy See" is immune under the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

What a waste of fucking money. I protest that our taxpayer dollars are being used to file briefs to defend the "Holy See." They have enough money for their own lawyers, and if they are immune they should be able to show it.