The Tea Partiers are Weird, but this is a revolting question

[Coito ergo sum]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... table.html

"There aren't a lot of black men at these rallies - have you ever felt uncomfortable?"

As if black men are only comfortable if there are other black men around for protection. WTF???

[Martok]

Seems like a fair question. Tea baggers are suspected of being racists.

[Coito ergo sum]

Seems like a fair question. Tea baggers are suspected of being racists.

From what I've seen, there is no evidence of Tea Partiers having any more of a racist complement than the general population. There have been self-serving allegations, but not much in the way of proof.

And, there is proof that opponents of the tea partiers have plotted to attend rallies, pose as tea partiers, and shout racist comments.

[Ameri Boi]

There is evidence of such a thing? Or is this a common talking point among conservatives to downplay the shouting of "ni**er" and"fa**ot" in open crowds at those whom they despise?

[Martok]

And, there is proof that opponents of the tea partiers have plotted to attend rallies, pose as tea partiers, and shout racist comments.

What's the proof of this?

Other than Newbusters, Newsmax. or Fox

[Ian]

A friend of mine went to the first big rally last year in DC. In his report he proudly emphasized that there was hardly anyone making anything out of the fact that Obama was black.

My thoughts were, "Okaaaayy... good for the Tea Partiers... whereas I have to remind myself that he is a black man." When I look at him I see a President, a Democrat, a politician, a father/husband, etc. His race is pretty far down the list.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

And, there is proof that opponents of the tea partiers have plotted to attend rallies, pose as tea partiers, and shout racist comments.

What's the proof of this?

Other than Newbusters, Newsmax. or Fox

'Proof that they plotted'. A post on a message board saying, "Hey guys, let's go shout racist slogans at the teabaggers' rally! " would constitute that - any proof that anyone actually did it?

[Coito ergo sum]

There is evidence of such a thing? Or is this a common talking point among conservatives to downplay the shouting of "ni**er" and"fa**ot" in open crowds at those whom they despise?

There is no evidence that any shouting of nigger or faggot occurred.

I love how you ask of me "is there evidence of such a thing", but do not ask the same question of those claiming they were shouted at. How come there is no audio or video of it, given the prevalence of video and audio equipment on every phone.

Crash the Tea Party Website: http://www.cafepress.com/CTTP --- known as "Crash the Tea Party" -- encouraging people to pose as Tea Partiers and then "behave in ways which exaggerate their least appealing qualities . . . to damage the public's opinion of them."

Harry Reid supporters egged a tea party bus - (threw eggs at the bus and the people).

[Coito ergo sum]

And, there is proof that opponents of the tea partiers have plotted to attend rallies, pose as tea partiers, and shout racist comments.

What's the proof of this?

Other than Newbusters, Newsmax. or Fox

The "crash the tea party" website and the person who created it.

And, look at the Reid supporters throwing eggs.... and then lying about it being the tea partiers who threw it at their own bus (belied by the video showing the Reid supporter holding and egg...)

[Coito ergo sum]

A friend of mine went to the first big rally last year in DC. In his report he proudly emphasized that there was hardly anyone making anything out of the fact that Obama was black.

My thoughts were, "Okaaaayy... good for the Tea Partiers... whereas I have to remind myself that he is a black man." When I look at him I see a President, a Democrat, a politician, a father/husband, etc. His race is pretty far down the list.

It's you guys that keep saying people are making something out him being black. What would be wrong with your friend clarifying for you that nobody, or hardly anyone, referring to his race?

[Ameri Boi]

So the senators whom testified that they had heard such slanders directed at them are lying?

[Martok]

Crash the Tea Party Website: http://www.cafepress.com/CTTP --- known as "Crash the Tea Party" -- encouraging people to pose as Tea Partiers and then "behave in ways which exaggerate their least appealing qualities . . . to damage the public's opinion of them."

All that site wants to do is sell tshirts. It doesn't say anything about causing trouble for the tea baggers.

I think the tea baggers can look like "morans" without any outside help.

[Coito ergo sum]

41% of tea partiers are Democrats and Independents: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washing ... obama.html

Tea party activists are surprisingly mainstream when it comes to their grievances about politics. They fit right in with most American voters who tell pollsters the country has been headed in the wrong direction under both Presidents Bush and Obama...
....'

Juan Williams, a political analyst for National Public Radio and Fox News, is the author of several books, including "Enough" (Crown, 2006) and "Thurgood Marshall: American Revolutionary" (Three Rivers Press, 2000). NPR - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 83252.html

[maiforpeace]

Seems like a fair question. Tea baggers are suspected of being racists.

From what I've seen, there is no evidence of Tea Partiers having any more of a racist complement than the general population. There have been self-serving allegations, but not much in the way of proof.

And, there is proof that opponents of the tea partiers have plotted to attend rallies, pose as tea partiers, and shout racist comments.

So the the congresspeople and their staffers were making it all up? When was the last time you heard someone call a congressman a 'nigger' or a 'faggot' at anti-war rally, or whatever us liberals demonstrate for?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/2 ... 07116.html

And instead there are supposed tea party 'opponents' infiltrated the tea partiers and posing as tea partiers?

That's the kind of stunt that Republicans like Jame's O'Keefe would pull. We have that evidence.

So please Coito, I would very much like to see the evidence of these so called tea party infiltrators you speak of.

[Coito ergo sum]

Crash the Tea Party Website: http://www.cafepress.com/CTTP --- known as "Crash the Tea Party" -- encouraging people to pose as Tea Partiers and then "behave in ways which exaggerate their least appealing qualities . . . to damage the public's opinion of them."

All that site wants to do is sell tshirts. It doesn't say anything about causing trouble for the tea baggers.

I think the tea baggers can look like "morans" without any outside help.

The guy who founded it said so. Right on the website it said:

"Whenever possible, we will act on behalf of the Tea Party in ways which exaggerate their least appealing qualities (misspelled protest signs, wild claims in TV interviews, etc.) to further distance them from mainstream America and damage the public's opinion of them. We will also use the inside information that we have gained in order to disrupt and derail their plans."

Jason Levin, the founder of the site, a teacher in Oregon has been "placed on leave" from his position as a teacher for doing this. On April 14th, Portland, Oregon's KPTV Fox 12 reported that Jason Levin, a Beaverton middle school teacher, was being investigated for misconduct and breaking district and state rules in his effort to dismantle a political movement.

"morans"?

Well, they often do look like morons, that's for sure. However, they don't look like racists or violent. They look peaceful and sincere, and they are law abiding and peaceably assemble. If there is EVIDENCE to the contrary, I'd like to see. Not liking them, thinking they are morons and hating their position on issues is no reason to lie about them.

And, one thing I've seen REPEATEDLY over the last three decades is that the left has a very "ends justify the means" mentality.... falsely accusing someone of being a racist without evidence is par for the course.