Spongers

[Deep Sea Isopod]

This is the issue I really want to see being tackled.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -22184595/

A jobless couple whose large family get £815 a week in benefits to pay for their comfortable lifestyle have complained: "Life's tough for us."

Peter and Claire Davey, who have seven children and another one on the way, live in a four-bedroom house and run two people carriers - one of them a Mercedes.

State handouts have also supplied a 42in TV complete with Sky at £50-a-month, a Wii games console, three Nintendo machines, a computer and four mobile phones.

But Claire - whose husband Peter gave up his job nine years ago after realising he would rake in more from benefits - is far from happy because she reckons their council semi is too small.

She said: "We're waiting for somewhere bigger. I'm worried how we'll cope.

"It's really hard. We can't afford holidays and the price of living is going up but benefits are going down."

Claire, who hopes to have 14 children eventually, said: "It doesn't bother me that taxpayers are paying for me to have a large family. I don't feel bad about being subsidised by working people. I'm just working with the system that's there. If the Government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it.

When I hear that Nu-Labour has turned us into a nation of scroungers, I think of all of these type of stories.
There are many near me. One family have a new camper van parked on the drive....the drive that the council had done for them.
I have to park on the fucking road because I'm "a working man" :pissed:


What party dares say they will end this?

[Pensioner]

This is the issue I really want to see being tackled.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -22184595/

A jobless couple whose large family get £815 a week in benefits to pay for their comfortable lifestyle have complained: "Life's tough for us."

Peter and Claire Davey, who have seven children and another one on the way, live in a four-bedroom house and run two people carriers - one of them a Mercedes.

State handouts have also supplied a 42in TV complete with Sky at £50-a-month, a Wii games console, three Nintendo machines, a computer and four mobile phones.

But Claire - whose husband Peter gave up his job nine years ago after realising he would rake in more from benefits - is far from happy because she reckons their council semi is too small.

She said: "We're waiting for somewhere bigger. I'm worried how we'll cope.

"It's really hard. We can't afford holidays and the price of living is going up but benefits are going down."

Claire, who hopes to have 14 children eventually, said: "It doesn't bother me that taxpayers are paying for me to have a large family. I don't feel bad about being subsidised by working people. I'm just working with the system that's there. If the Government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it.

When I hear that Nu-Labour has turned us into a nation of scroungers, I think of all of these type of stories.
There are many near me. One family have a new camper van parked on the drive....the drive that the council had done for them.
I have to park on the fucking road because I'm "a working man" :pissed:


What party dares say they will end this?

I know a fucking immigrant who lives in the biggest council house in the UK, has servants, gets waited on and has not worked for years. The Duke of Edinburgh.

[Coito ergo sum]

This is the issue I really want to see being tackled.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -22184595/

A jobless couple whose large family get £815 a week in benefits to pay for their comfortable lifestyle have complained: "Life's tough for us."

Peter and Claire Davey, who have seven children and another one on the way, live in a four-bedroom house and run two people carriers - one of them a Mercedes.

State handouts have also supplied a 42in TV complete with Sky at £50-a-month, a Wii games console, three Nintendo machines, a computer and four mobile phones.

But Claire - whose husband Peter gave up his job nine years ago after realising he would rake in more from benefits - is far from happy because she reckons their council semi is too small.

She said: "We're waiting for somewhere bigger. I'm worried how we'll cope.

"It's really hard. We can't afford holidays and the price of living is going up but benefits are going down."

Claire, who hopes to have 14 children eventually, said: "It doesn't bother me that taxpayers are paying for me to have a large family. I don't feel bad about being subsidised by working people. I'm just working with the system that's there. If the Government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it.

When I hear that Nu-Labour has turned us into a nation of scroungers, I think of all of these type of stories.
There are many near me. One family have a new camper van parked on the drive....the drive that the council had done for them.
I have to park on the fucking road because I'm "a working man" :pissed:


What party dares say they will end this?

Here is an article you might like: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1234

[Coito ergo sum]

I know a fucking immigrant who lives in the biggest council house in the UK, has servants, gets waited on and has not worked for years. The Duke of Edinburgh.

You folks ought to end that shit, as in yesterday.

Kings and Queens and Dukes and Earls? Rubbish.

Swear no allegiance to one who claims it by right! It's contemptible fiction that places one man above others by virtue of his birth. It is smoke and mirrors that once subjugated entire peoples and crushed the human spirit under the fetid boot heel of monarchical despotism. Now, it is just a gruesome reminder of that horror, and complete waste of time and money.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

This is the issue I really want to see being tackled.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -22184595/

A jobless couple whose large family get £815 a week in benefits to pay for their comfortable lifestyle have complained: "Life's tough for us."

Peter and Claire Davey, who have seven children and another one on the way, live in a four-bedroom house and run two people carriers - one of them a Mercedes.

State handouts have also supplied a 42in TV complete with Sky at £50-a-month, a Wii games console, three Nintendo machines, a computer and four mobile phones.

But Claire - whose husband Peter gave up his job nine years ago after realising he would rake in more from benefits - is far from happy because she reckons their council semi is too small.

She said: "We're waiting for somewhere bigger. I'm worried how we'll cope.

"It's really hard. We can't afford holidays and the price of living is going up but benefits are going down."

Claire, who hopes to have 14 children eventually, said: "It doesn't bother me that taxpayers are paying for me to have a large family. I don't feel bad about being subsidised by working people. I'm just working with the system that's there. If the Government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it.

When I hear that Nu-Labour has turned us into a nation of scroungers, I think of all of these type of stories.
There are many near me. One family have a new camper van parked on the drive....the drive that the council had done for them.
I have to park on the fucking road because I'm "a working man" :pissed:


What party dares say they will end this?

Here is an article you might like: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1234

I wouldn't say the Welfare state is dead (yet) I just think they're doing it wrong!


VERY interesting article though.

[Rum]

Will someone please offer an alternative to the so called 'welfare state'? Thousands of homeless people on the street? Jobless people committing crime to survive and our prisons growing and growing in terms of numbers? Immigrants forcibly deported?

Get real please.

[Coito ergo sum]

This is the issue I really want to see being tackled.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -22184595/

A jobless couple whose large family get £815 a week in benefits to pay for their comfortable lifestyle have complained: "Life's tough for us."

Peter and Claire Davey, who have seven children and another one on the way, live in a four-bedroom house and run two people carriers - one of them a Mercedes.

State handouts have also supplied a 42in TV complete with Sky at £50-a-month, a Wii games console, three Nintendo machines, a computer and four mobile phones.

But Claire - whose husband Peter gave up his job nine years ago after realising he would rake in more from benefits - is far from happy because she reckons their council semi is too small.

She said: "We're waiting for somewhere bigger. I'm worried how we'll cope.

"It's really hard. We can't afford holidays and the price of living is going up but benefits are going down."

Claire, who hopes to have 14 children eventually, said: "It doesn't bother me that taxpayers are paying for me to have a large family. I don't feel bad about being subsidised by working people. I'm just working with the system that's there. If the Government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it.

When I hear that Nu-Labour has turned us into a nation of scroungers, I think of all of these type of stories.
There are many near me. One family have a new camper van parked on the drive....the drive that the council had done for them.
I have to park on the fucking road because I'm "a working man" :pissed:


What party dares say they will end this?

Here is an article you might like: http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1234

I wouldn't say the Welfare state is dead (yet) I just think they're doing it wrong!


VERY interesting article though.

The article didn't say it's dead yet either, but that it will collapse of its own dead weight.

[Pensioner]

Will someone please offer an alternative to the so called 'welfare state'? Thousands of homeless people on the street? Jobless people committing crime to survive and our prisons growing and growing in terms of numbers? Immigrants forcibly deported?

Get real please.

Well said that man

[maiforpeace]

I know a fucking immigrant who lives in the biggest council house in the UK, has servants, gets waited on and has not worked for years. The Duke of Edinburgh.

You folks ought to end that shit, as in yesterday.

Kings and Queens and Dukes and Earls? Rubbish.

Swear no allegiance to one who claims it by right! It's contemptible fiction that places one man above others by virtue of his birth. It is smoke and mirrors that once subjugated entire peoples and crushed the human spirit under the fetid boot heel of monarchical despotism. Now, it is just a gruesome reminder of that horror, and complete waste of time and money.

We don't do much better with the corporate wolves, movie stars, sports stars, etc that is the American version of royalty.

[Coito ergo sum]

I know a fucking immigrant who lives in the biggest council house in the UK, has servants, gets waited on and has not worked for years. The Duke of Edinburgh.

You folks ought to end that shit, as in yesterday.

Kings and Queens and Dukes and Earls? Rubbish.

Swear no allegiance to one who claims it by right! It's contemptible fiction that places one man above others by virtue of his birth. It is smoke and mirrors that once subjugated entire peoples and crushed the human spirit under the fetid boot heel of monarchical despotism. Now, it is just a gruesome reminder of that horror, and complete waste of time and money.

We don't do much better with the corporate wolves, movie stars, sports stars, etc that is the American version of royalty.

The State doesn't pay movie stars, sports stars, etc.

Generally, at least until the "bailout frenzy" began, we didn't pay corporate wolves either.

There is a fundamental difference in rich people existing in a free society and State sponsorship and entrenchment of aristocracies.

[beige]

"It's really hard. We can't afford holidays and the price of living is going up but benefits are going down."

A holiday from what exactly? Sitting around on your arse all day?

Claire, who hopes to have 14 children eventually, said: "It doesn't bother me that taxpayers are paying for me to have a large family. I don't feel bad about being subsidised by working people. I'm just working with the system that's there. If the Government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it.

That reminds me of the excuses all those MPs made when their expenses stuff came out. "Oh, I didn't think it was wrong because the system allowed it".

"Most of the parents at our kids' school are on benefits." Peter, 35, a former office worker, said: "We are actually better off unemployed".

Oh, if all the other parents are doing it, then it's fine. Makes everything okay.

[Valden]

This is the issue I really want to see being tackled.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -22184595/

A jobless couple whose large family get £815 a week in benefits to pay for their comfortable lifestyle have complained: "Life's tough for us."

Peter and Claire Davey, who have seven children and another one on the way, live in a four-bedroom house and run two people carriers - one of them a Mercedes.

State handouts have also supplied a 42in TV complete with Sky at £50-a-month, a Wii games console, three Nintendo machines, a computer and four mobile phones.

But Claire - whose husband Peter gave up his job nine years ago after realising he would rake in more from benefits - is far from happy because she reckons their council semi is too small.

She said: "We're waiting for somewhere bigger. I'm worried how we'll cope.

"It's really hard. We can't afford holidays and the price of living is going up but benefits are going down."

Claire, who hopes to have 14 children eventually, said: "It doesn't bother me that taxpayers are paying for me to have a large family. I don't feel bad about being subsidised by working people. I'm just working with the system that's there. If the Government wants to give me money, I'm happy to take it.

When I hear that Nu-Labour has turned us into a nation of scroungers, I think of all of these type of stories.
There are many near me. One family have a new camper van parked on the drive....the drive that the council had done for them.
I have to park on the fucking road because I'm "a working man" :pissed:


What party dares say they will end this?

Wow..

Someone demand either one or both of them gets a job. However much they make, take that much out of their benefits.
As in, if one of them gets a job and is paid £10 an hour, that's £400 a week. So instead of the £815 they've been getting, it will be reduced to only £415 instead. That way they're not being complete sponges, but they wont have to worry about becoming homeless either.

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[JimC]

Will someone please offer an alternative to the so called 'welfare state'? Thousands of homeless people on the street? Jobless people committing crime to survive and our prisons growing and growing in terms of numbers? Immigrants forcibly deported?

Get real please.

A welfare state is needed, agreed.

But perhaps a some intelligent revision of policy, with some thoughtful application of both carrots and sticks to steadily reduce the number of those who deliberately rort the system...

[The Dawktor]

Don't get me onto this subject- I may actually do this for a living! I saw a guy yesterday PRETENDING to be deaf to get enhanced benefits! The problem is not having a benefit system- the problem is people who feel that they are 'only' taking free money from the 'rich' state and therefore it isn't fraud!

No-one minds tax-money supporting the genuine claimants.

The key question for we tax-payers is- Are you happy for the £815/ week going to THIS family coming directly from the tax that YOU pay?

Maybe- if all the fraudulent piss-takers were taken off the benefits the maybe, just maybe, the Government could be able to pay more to the genuine claimants and the pensioners (sigh, including our Pensioner).