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Post by aufbahrung » Fri Oct 04, 2024 12:54 am

Hospitals. In a war. Avoid. This does not take a genius. If your wound is fatal you will die in more comfort at home. If not. Avoid the hospital to avoid a increased risk of it becoming fatal. No matter which side you are on. Avoid the hospital.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:10 am

No one other than the Israelis bomb hospitals.
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:34 am

a doctor who takes care of terrorist supports terrorism, therefore all doctors are terrorists.
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:36 am

I don't think that's in the Hippocratic oath.
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Post by aufbahrung » Fri Oct 04, 2024 7:40 am

They all bomb hospitals and the ones who don't would if they could. Middle East would be dull if it was like a normal region on the planet. These never ending blood feuds are never gonna end until humans have all died out in the region.
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Does it ever occur to you what a moron you are?
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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Oct 04, 2024 7:48 am

Al Jazeera doco on Israeli war crimes. Probably available on their website, but I'm watching it on twitter.

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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:05 am

pErvinalia wrote:Does it ever occur to you what a moron you are?
Steady on. Crumps is troubled by his black dog, and we need to take that into account. It makes him deaf to the suffering of others - no matter how appalling or unnecessary - because on some level he cannot envisage an end to his own suffering, which he clearly equates to things like bleeding-out in 'the comfort of your own home'. This has nothing to do with intellectual capacity, and therefore I think we should avoid denigrating troubled individuals on that basis.

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Post by pErvinalia » Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:07 am

Who says he's depressed? Has he stated that somewhere?
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Saying that others would bomb hospitals if they could is categorically dumb. How many hospitals has Russia bombed?
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Post by aufbahrung » Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:33 am

I'm hounded by my blackdog. Hardly have it under control - could say. There's enough atrocities in the world without taking sides. Hospitals or not these smart bombs need blocky buildings to target. AI bombs might be more selective but don't count on that being a improvement regards bodycount and social justice. News would even depress the grim reaper, thinking about his increased workload on the horizon.
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Post by JimC » Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:03 am

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Saying that others would bomb hospitals if they could is categorically dumb. How many hospitals has Russia bombed?
I think they hit one in Ukraine with a missile recently...
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:46 am

A year is just too long’: relatives of Gaza hostages speak of their anguish

Eli Albag had been fighting for the release of his daughter from captivity in Gaza for almost a year when he was pelted with eggs and verbally abused.

The father of Liri Albag, who is held hostage by Hamas, was protesting recently outside a political event attended by Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, in the coastal city of Netanya.

There, he was attacked and shouted at by rightwing activists. “You’ve made enough noise, be quiet,” one told him. “You are cancer in the country,” another called as he was accused of being “funded by Hamas”.

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Like many relatives of the remaining hostages, Aviva resents how political considerations have played into what she sees as a simple, humanitarian and viscerally-felt demand.

“I’ve had enough. A year is just too long. I can’t take it any more, I want to ask Bibi [Netanyahu] and [president Joe] Biden what am I supposed to do when Keith is still there.

“I’d say Netanyahu knows enough what is happening to the hostages. He can’t let the hostages die slowly. I was there and I nearly died in that tunnel. It’s a cruel pity that politics has invaded something so human as the hostage situation.”

As with others who spoke to the Guardian, Aviva is profoundly sceptical of the Israeli government’s argument that only further military pressure will bring their loved ones back. More war has only brought back more bodies: “It’s the proof. It’s exactly what happens.

“I’ve been talking about what happened to me over and over and it just feels like it goes into a drawer that is filled with terrible stories that then gets closed. And all we get is dead bodies coming back.”

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Post by aufbahrung » Mon Oct 07, 2024 7:56 am

Doubt there are any hostages still alive. Reality is Morloks in them tunnels like the taste of human flesh. Can't change them. Smoking them out of their holes is probably less wise then doing the right thing and smoking them in their holes. No good options but blowing up the reactors and oil fields both in Iran might be the best at this point in the new world war.

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Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 07, 2024 8:22 am

Netanyahu was never interested in the hostages. His motivation has been the destruction of Hamas, hostages be damned.
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