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Post by Feck » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:45 pm

Any free movement agreement will really fuck up the RACIST BASTARDS that voted for Brexshit :)
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by Forty Two » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:56 pm

Feck wrote:Any free movement agreement will really fuck up the RACIST BASTARDS that voted for Brexshit :)
Yes, they are as racist as those god damn xenophobic Norwegians. White privileged sons-a-bitches! How dare the Norsk vote twice - twice - "no" on entering the EU. Those two Noentry votes were based on xenophobia, racism and attachment to white Norwegian privilege.

Any European country that doesn't want to be in the EU is racist.

Don't get me started on the fucking Icelanders. They had a perfectly good application for membership going, and they fucking withdrew it. The racist bastards. They may submit the matter to a referendum soon, and we'll see if they'll get any less racist and vote yes on Icentry. Fucking buggers not enthusiastically wanting to join the EU. Racists.

Fucking Switzerland, Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, and that fucking uber-racist Liechtenstein... my god...the racism is palpable.

The EU, of course, is racist in refusing to begin accession negotiations with Turkey due to EU Islamophobia. How long do the poor Turks have to wait? I mean, it's hard to figure out who is more racist: The god damn EU, or the states that don't want to join the EU? Wankers.
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

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Feck wrote:Any free movement agreement will really fuck up the RACIST BASTARDS that voted for Brexshit :)
Yes, they are as racist as those god damn xenophobic Norwegians. White privileged sons-a-bitches! How dare the Norsk vote twice - twice - "no" on entering the EU. Those two Noentry votes were based on xenophobia, racism and attachment to white Norwegian privilege.
They probably were. I've heard it said that the Scandinavians are pretty racist.
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Post by Forty Two » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:00 pm

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Feck wrote:Any free movement agreement will really fuck up the RACIST BASTARDS that voted for Brexshit :)
Yes, they are as racist as those god damn xenophobic Norwegians. White privileged sons-a-bitches! How dare the Norsk vote twice - twice - "no" on entering the EU. Those two Noentry votes were based on xenophobia, racism and attachment to white Norwegian privilege.
They probably were. I've heard it said that the Scandinavians are pretty racist.
Yeah, punch the motherfuckers! White privileged supremacist patriarchal capitalist mansplainers, the lot of 'em!
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I've never had a conversation with any brexit voter that didn't end in pathetic attempts to excuse xenophobia...Hang on that's what you just did isn't it I said Brexit voters are racists and you justify that with the defence that other people are more racist ( logical fallacy )
Your assertions that there are racists about ,we knew that , In no way negates my claim . Turkey isn't going to be part of Europe because It's in Asia it's an islamic dictator ship that refuses to abide by basic human rights ,and it's getting worse.
Anyone who uses the term' Islamophobia ' is a moron who should learn what words mean .
I do not fucking care how racist anyone is in any country in the world nothing they do or say changes the fact that nobody who voted for brexit did it so we could have a more open and welcoming country .
don't care about all the lies or the euphemisms Brexit voters made their choice because they are xenophobic .
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:19 pm

Forty Two wrote:
pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
Feck wrote:Any free movement agreement will really fuck up the RACIST BASTARDS that voted for Brexshit :)
Yes, they are as racist as those god damn xenophobic Norwegians. White privileged sons-a-bitches! How dare the Norsk vote twice - twice - "no" on entering the EU. Those two Noentry votes were based on xenophobia, racism and attachment to white Norwegian privilege.
They probably were. I've heard it said that the Scandinavians are pretty racist.
Yeah, punch the motherfuckers! White privileged supremacist patriarchal capitalist mansplainers, the lot of 'em!
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

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Bexit voters aren't racist because Hitler ... :funny:
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Brexit voters aren't racist because Iceland :funny:
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by Forty Two » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:39 pm

Feck wrote:I've never had a conversation with any brexit voter that didn't end in pathetic attempts to excuse xenophobia...
Is it what they are saying, or what you think they "really mean"?
Feck wrote: Hang on that's what you just did isn't it
No.
Feck wrote: I said Brexit voters are racists and you justify that with the defence that other people are more racist ( logical fallacy )
No, I was pointing out that plenty of people don't want to be in the EU, and it seems rather unlikely that it's primarily a product of xenophobia, unless one is saying that the majority of Norwegians and Icelanders, etc. are "xenophobic." It seems to me that the racism allegation is a common retort from "the left" against their opposition, so it's a bit like crying wolf. It's heard so many times, in so many contexts, and with precious little in the way of evidence -- it's more of an assumption of what must be motivating those folks that we already know are hateful, racist sons-a-bitches....
Feck wrote: Your assertions that there are racists about ,we knew that , In no way negates my claim . Turkey isn't going to be part of Europe because It's in Asia
and partly in Europe, and since 1989 it has seriously been considered a potential EU member. It's the EU that put its application on hold, and not because it's mostly in Asia.
Feck wrote: it's an islamic dictator ship
There's a give-away. Xenophobia, right there. ISLAMIC? EU doesn't want them because they are ISLAMIC? Sounds like a Muslim ban.
Feck wrote: that refuses to abide by basic human rights ,and it's getting worse.
So maybe Turkey is the place full of xenophobes, not immigrant friendly UK.

Feck wrote: Anyone who uses the term' Islamophobia ' is a moron who should learn what words mean .
Tell that to the British Labour Party, who apparently wants to ban Islamophobia. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5665 ... phobia-ban
Feck wrote: I do not fucking care how racist anyone is in any country in the world nothing they do or say changes the fact that nobody who voted for brexit did it so we could have a more open and welcoming country .
They may have done so for the reason that they thought the EU is an anti-democratic organization which makes law for the UK without the UK being properly represented. Like Jeremy Corbyn said when he voted against Maastricht in 1993, the EU had handed control to “an unelected set of bankers” https://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/ ... -20a.389.4 More recently Corbyns said the EU has “always suffered from a serious democratic deficit”. It could also be that the Brexiters thought it would be more in the national interest over the long term.

Not wanting to make a country which is already relatively open and welcoming "more" open and welcoming is not xenophobia. It's got borders, it's a country. They are allowed to act in their interest.
Feck wrote: don't care about all the lies or the euphemisms Brexit voters made their choice because they are xenophobic .
Xenophobia - intense fear or dislike of people from other countries. Assertion: Brexit voters voted exit because they have an intense fear or dislike of people from other countries. Evidence for that assertion is: _____________________________________?


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Post by Forty Two » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:42 pm

Feck wrote:Brexit voters aren't racist because Iceland :funny:
No, Icelanders are racist because they don't seem to want to join the EU. Anyone who doesn't want to be in the EU is doing so because they're racist and xenophobic. Economic and political reasons can have nothing to with it. So when Brexiters say they want out because they don't like the EU government and don't think it's very democratic, and they think the UK will fare better politically and economically outside the EU, like some other European countries do, that's just a euphemism or code for "keep out the darkies and the Muslims."
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by Forty Two » Wed Mar 29, 2017 2:44 pm

pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
pErvin wrote:
Forty Two wrote:
Feck wrote:Any free movement agreement will really fuck up the RACIST BASTARDS that voted for Brexshit :)
Yes, they are as racist as those god damn xenophobic Norwegians. White privileged sons-a-bitches! How dare the Norsk vote twice - twice - "no" on entering the EU. Those two Noentry votes were based on xenophobia, racism and attachment to white Norwegian privilege.
They probably were. I've heard it said that the Scandinavians are pretty racist.
Yeah, punch the motherfuckers! White privileged supremacist patriarchal capitalist mansplainers, the lot of 'em!
No, the chicks are too hot and too nice. What's a bit of racism when your girlfriend is an intelligent and hot 6 foot blonde...?
You can't punch the chicks. That' would be sexist. To be non-sexist, we only punch the male racists. :smoke:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:22 pm

Feck wrote:I've never had a conversation with any brexit voter that didn't end in pathetic attempts to excuse xenophobia...Hang on that's what you just did isn't it I said Brexit voters are racists and you justify that with the defence that other people are more racist ( logical fallacy )
Your assertions that there are racists about ,we knew that , In no way negates my claim . Turkey isn't going to be part of Europe because It's in Asia it's an islamic dictator ship that refuses to abide by basic human rights ,and it's getting worse.
Anyone who uses the term' Islamophobia ' is a moron who should learn what words mean .
I do not fucking care how racist anyone is in any country in the world nothing they do or say changes the fact that nobody who voted for brexit did it so we could have a more open and welcoming country .
don't care about all the lies or the euphemisms Brexit voters made their choice because they are xenophobic .
I've talked to members of my family who voted Leave about this, one a staunch union supporter and another a life-long Labour voter. Both of them voted Leave not because they thought membership of the EU undermined British Parliamentary Sovereignty, nor because they thought Britain paid too much money into the pot for little or no benefit (two of the main Leave campaigns arguments), but because they held this strange (received?) idea that there are just too many foreigners coming into the country and that leaving the EU was the only way to stop our essential Britishness being diluted by outsiders. Phrases like, "When you walk down the high street these days you hear more Pakistani and Polish accents than you do British accents," or "Every plumber an his mate seem to be Polish or Czech," or, "The girls in Costa Coffee don't understand English," were typical. I don't think these blokes are necessarily racist, or xenophobic - just misinformed, deliberately so.
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Post by Strontium Dog » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:13 pm

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Feck wrote:Brexit voters aren't racist because Iceland :funny:
No, Icelanders are racist because they don't seem to want to join the EU. Anyone who doesn't want to be in the EU is doing so because they're racist and xenophobic. Economic and political reasons can have nothing to with it. So when Brexiters say they want out because they don't like the EU government and don't think it's very democratic, and they think the UK will fare better politically and economically outside the EU, like some other European countries do, that's just a euphemism or code for "keep out the darkies and the Muslims."
Iceland and Norway are in the European Economic Area, which means they accept and abide by the four freedoms of the European Union, including freedom of movement, while not actually being a part of the EU. So they're very bad examples to support your "point", if I can call it that.
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by Forty Two » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:50 pm

The point was to address the notion that a Brexit vote was necessarily a racist and xenophobic vote. There are plenty of other reasons not to want to be in the EU. It often seems like the go-to allegation to call anyone supposedly aligned on the "right" to be racist and xenophobic.
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