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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:43 am

We work the fewest hours of any first world country but are one of the most efficient.
You must look at GDP ppp.

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The UK is 19th btw.
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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by rainbow » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:46 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:27 am
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:53 am
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The UK is small, but it has the fifth largest GDP in the world, meaning the only European country that beats it is Germany. UK has 3 times the conomy of the Netherregions.
I described the UK as a 'middling economy'. It is in relative terms by GDP per head of population - snugly residing in the 3rd quintile. Just over 70% of nations reside within the 1st quintile php. In the absolute terms of GDP it is the seventh largest economy, but while that might seem like a top spot positionally, because it is a top spot positionally, we have to consider that the country in 3rd place, Japan, has an economy roughly a third of the USA and China at positions one and two, and that the UK's economy is roughly a fifth of the size of the big two. Yes, the UK's economy is roughly three times larger than the Netherlands, but the UK population is roughly four times as large so, unsurprisingly, the Netherlands has a more productive economy with a higher GDP per head of population. You can check the latest figures on the IMF website. So, remind me what the point was again?
Measured in terms of Purchasing Power, the UK comes out at 8th or 9th behind Brazil, Indonesia, Russia and India.

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...slightly ahead of France and Mexico.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:47 am

BTW I never ever trust USA statistics. My personal experience of trying to collect American data for the Dutch Ministry of Transport taught me it was impossible. No two states have the same definitions.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:49 am

That chart is invalid because it doesn't have the USA at the top. That chart is rigged... many people don't know this... but it's a very rigged... and a very bad... so bad... rigged system... so rigged... it's rigged... I tell you... many people don't even know that... that it's a rigged system.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:52 am

rainbow wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:46 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:27 am
Forty Two wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:53 am
...
The UK is small, but it has the fifth largest GDP in the world, meaning the only European country that beats it is Germany. UK has 3 times the conomy of the Netherregions.
I described the UK as a 'middling economy'. It is in relative terms by GDP per head of population - snugly residing in the 3rd quintile. Just over 70% of nations reside within the 1st quintile php. In the absolute terms of GDP it is the seventh largest economy, but while that might seem like a top spot positionally, because it is a top spot positionally, we have to consider that the country in 3rd place, Japan, has an economy roughly a third of the USA and China at positions one and two, and that the UK's economy is roughly a fifth of the size of the big two. Yes, the UK's economy is roughly three times larger than the Netherlands, but the UK population is roughly four times as large so, unsurprisingly, the Netherlands has a more productive economy with a higher GDP per head of population. You can check the latest figures on the IMF website. So, remind me what the point was again?
Measured in terms of Purchasing Power, the UK comes out at 8th or 9th behind Brazil, Indonesia, Russia and India.

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...slightly ahead of France and Mexico.
Sorry rainbow but that is a very loose statistical measure and is open to a great variation. Brazil these days is a wreck of an economy. Indonesia, Russia and India? Tempting fate. India has very little satisfactory data about itself.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:53 am

Die kaart is ongeldig omdat Nederland niet bovenaan staat. Die kaart is getuigd ... veel mensen weten dit niet ... maar het is een erg getuigd ... en een heel slecht ... zo slecht ... opgetuigd systeem ... zo getuigd ... het is getuigd. .. Ik zeg je ... veel mensen weten dat niet eens ... dat het een getuigd systeem is.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:57 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:49 am
That chart is invalid because it doesn't have the USA at the top. That chart is rigged... many people don't know this... but it's a very rigged... and a very bad... so bad... rigged system... so rigged... it's rigged... I tell you... many people don't even know that... that it's a rigged system.
Well that is the whole point. My simple task was to examine fatal road accidents. SIMPLE. Many states did not even record accidents unless they were fatal at the time of the accident which excluded deaths after the accident. Federal figures were useless and out of date as they were never revised. A nightmare.
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Post by Svartalf » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:00 am

statistics don't matter, remember, there are little white lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:01 am

Amazing what Google does with "rigged". Getuigd refers to ships; the rigging.

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Never used in Dutch for voting etc.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:03 am

Svartalf wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:00 am
statistics don't matter, remember, there are little white lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics.
You missed one; Trump lies beat the rest hands down.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:04 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:57 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:49 am
That chart is invalid because it doesn't have the USA at the top. That chart is rigged... many people don't know this... but it's a very rigged... and a very bad... so bad... rigged system... so rigged... it's rigged... I tell you... many people don't even know that... that it's a rigged system.
Well that is the whole point. My simple task was to examine fatal road accidents. SIMPLE. Many states did not even record accidents unless they were fatal at the time of the accident which excluded deaths after the accident. Federal figures were useless and out of date as they were never revised. A nightmare.
But at least the IMF data is consistent, even if it's incomplete (what dataset isn't, in some way?).
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:01 am
Amazing what Google does with "rigged". Getuigd refers to ships; the rigging.
Google, mistranslating jokes since 2011. ;)
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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by rainbow » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:05 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:52 am
rainbow wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:46 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 10:27 am
Forty Two wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:53 am
...
The UK is small, but it has the fifth largest GDP in the world, meaning the only European country that beats it is Germany. UK has 3 times the conomy of the Netherregions.
I described the UK as a 'middling economy'. It is in relative terms by GDP per head of population - snugly residing in the 3rd quintile. Just over 70% of nations reside within the 1st quintile php. In the absolute terms of GDP it is the seventh largest economy, but while that might seem like a top spot positionally, because it is a top spot positionally, we have to consider that the country in 3rd place, Japan, has an economy roughly a third of the USA and China at positions one and two, and that the UK's economy is roughly a fifth of the size of the big two. Yes, the UK's economy is roughly three times larger than the Netherlands, but the UK population is roughly four times as large so, unsurprisingly, the Netherlands has a more productive economy with a higher GDP per head of population. You can check the latest figures on the IMF website. So, remind me what the point was again?
Measured in terms of Purchasing Power, the UK comes out at 8th or 9th behind Brazil, Indonesia, Russia and India.

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...slightly ahead of France and Mexico.
Sorry rainbow but that is a very loose statistical measure and is open to a great variation. Brazil these days is a wreck of an economy. Indonesia, Russia and India? Tempting fate. India has very little satisfactory data about itself.
The IMF seem to be comfortable with the numbers, so apologise to them.
India has far more industry than the UK.
Brazil is an agricultural and mining powerhouse, and will bounce back once commodity prices recover.

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Post by Svartalf » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:07 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:03 am
Svartalf wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:00 am
statistics don't matter, remember, there are little white lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics.
You missed one; Trump lies beat the rest hands down.
You miss the obvious, or maybe not, Dutch lies are the best.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:11 am

Brazil is lost for a decade. Nobody knows about India not even the Indians.
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Re: BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:15 am

Svartalf wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:07 am
Scot Dutchy wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:03 am
Svartalf wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:00 am
statistics don't matter, remember, there are little white lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics.
You missed one; Trump lies beat the rest hands down.
You miss the obvious, or maybe not, Dutch lies are the best.
Not according to the corruption transparency index

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