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Re: All Things Trump

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:32 am

He's actually a liberal..
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:34 am

You say. I only think it part of the process to dictatorship. I AM NOT JOKING.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:37 am

he'll get ousted from the urns before he can try and play Caesar... I doubt he can be more than a one term president, he's too much like a republican jimmy carter.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:41 am

I hope you are right but I cant see it happen. He has no opposition and the morons will accept it without a problem.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:48 am

he already lost the popular vote, and his lack of efficacy in reviving the rust belt and coal states is going to disaffect even a significant part of Republicans.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:18 am

Expecting too much Svarty. His morons in the rust belt blame everyone else. Who is criticising him? The news programmes? Fox?
He has no opposition because nobody questions his lies. He is like an African dictator. His word is gospel.
When he takes over SCOTUS his path will be open.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:43 am

well, that's why there's a 22nd amendment to us US constitution, even a corrupt and fundeie SCOTUS can't change tha., Unless he manages to be in his successor's inner circle, which I doubt, he'll have had his 8 years and be cast out onto the conference circuit.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:46 am

By then he wont require the constitution.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:49 am

Mmmmh, the US system is more resilient than you think, I doubt he'll break it.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:29 pm

I hope it is but who is going to object.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:49 pm

the 50+% of US population that wants a Democrat pres?
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:54 pm

Optimistic there? How many people actually vote in American elections? Where are the democrats?
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:06 pm

well, even discounting abstention, remember that trump won only due to the effed up grand elector system that unduly favors the underpopulated inland states, which also happen to be rural and red... if he disappoints enough of those, he'll get the way out faster than you can say #FAKENEWS... I do hope the deep dyed in the wool trumpists are actually only a small, but extremely vocal minority, and that the majority of republican voters are more reasonable and will vote to get rid of the ne'er do well... We're not going to see many truly reasonable repubs like Ike Eisenhower or Dick Nixon wereany time soon, but bush senior class ones would be a nice change.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Scot Dutchy » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:21 pm

Here is an article from Time. It is interesting how the 'rust belt' perceives him:

Why Trump’s ‘Forgotten Man’ Still Supports Him
Donald Trump was saying everything Vonie Long wanted to hear, not that Long believed him.

The head of the United Steelworkers’ local union in Coatesville, Pa., Long was sitting in his electrical-maintenance truck in June 2016, listening on the radio to Trump give a speech on trade at an aluminum plant on the other side of the state, outside Pittsburgh. Trump had begun with a tribute to the steelworkers who built America. He blasted the politicians who pursued globalization and pledged to fight unfair trade practices that threatened U.S. jobs. Most of all, he made promises, from renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) to imposing a tariff on steel.

Long, a stout man with a bristly gray mustache, was impressed. Republicans didn’t usually talk like this. “Any of us steelworkers could have given that exact speech,” he told me recently. And while Long, a Democrat, voted against Trump, after the election he hoped that Trump might actually follow through.

But it hasn’t panned out that way. A year into Trump’s term, the factories have not roared back. His accomplishments–a massive corporate tax cut, a strong stock market–have largely redounded to the benefit of the bankers and fat cats. Trump has taken few of his promised actions on trade and manufacturing. The American steel industry has suffered as the market floods with imports, forcing prices down, all while the Administration dithers and delays over tariffs.

As Long sees it, no one should feel more betrayed by the Trump presidency than the archetypical Trump supporter: the white working-class voter whom Trump dubbed the Forgotten Man. And yet, to his great frustration, many of his fellow blue collar workers don’t seem to grasp how Trump has abandoned them. As of last month, the President’s approval rating was 46 percent among white non-college-educated voters, down 7 points since he took office, according to the polling firm Morning Consult. “The most vocal supporters of him, they’re just unwavering,” Long says, shaking his head.
That is about a third of the electorate which in Election College terms is sufficient to win. They are not leaving him.
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Re: All Things Trump

Post by Tero » Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:42 pm

Good article. I'm afraid even four years is not enough to convince them. The voter, not the union guy, trusts authority till the next authority comes along.
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