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Post by Woodbutcher » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:39 pm

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Post by JimC » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:43 pm

Jewish-American trap, eh...

Typical of the anti-semitism of the day, I suppose...
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:05 am

Not quite a grope but the hand was progressing.
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He might have saved the pussy grab for in private out of respect for another world leader.
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Post by Forty Two » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:20 pm

Margaret Thatcher smacked Christopher Hitchens on the ass. Good thing Thatcher was a man, otherwise he'd never be able to get away with that.
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Post by rainbow » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:09 am

Forty Two wrote:Margaret Thatcher smacked Christopher Hitchens on the ass. Good thing Thatcher was a man, otherwise he'd never be able to get away with that.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:29 am

Parliamentary Bill passed and May can now trigger article 50.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:06 am

thanks for the info, my usual date sources did not mention it
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Post by rainbow » Fri Feb 03, 2017 5:54 am

Brian Peacock wrote:Parliamentary Bill passed and May can now trigger article 50.
So far as I understand it, the bill needs to have a second reading, and amendments may be added. What I don't get is that this is being put to the vote when no-one has at idea of the details.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:49 am

The second reading is traditionally a kind of formality - one in which previously considered and much trailed 'compromises' are amended into legislation. By the time of the second reading no surprises usually remain to discuss. However, the Brexit minister, David Davis, has provided a white paper that is so long-winded--90 pages not including the usual appendices etc--and yet so thin on detail that, as it stands, the only substatial thing that MPs will be (presumably) passing into law next week is the unfettered empowerment of ministers to pursue their own interests without scrutiny; with no structured mechanisms for holding ministers to account, with no legal means of parliament influencing the process to leave the EU and, as you say, no clear idea of the ultimate ends - beyond that is Mrs May's bold assertion that Britain can somehow retain all the benefits of EU membership without any of the obligations. That assertion seems so plainly errant and unrealistic that it surely amounts to a knowingly manipulative lie - a lie on a grand scale.

Many MPs voted to progress the Bill because they couldn't in all conscience go against the popular decision of the referendum. I totally understand that. But they should seriously consider if giving the executive such a powerfully free hand on this basis is really in the best interests of the country.
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Re: The Thread of BREXIT

Post by rainbow » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:25 am

Brian Peacock wrote: Many MPs voted to progress the Bill because they couldn't in all conscience go against the popular decision of the referendum. I totally understand that.
I don't understand it. The MPs represent their constituency. If the majority of their constituents voted to remain, they should vote accordingly.
I think it is the cowards way out to claim that they are voting for "the popular decision". It wasn't. It was a slim majority of those that voted.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:39 am

I said I understand it, though I also agree with you. But no MP wants to be branded an ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE by the Daily Mail and have their, erm, character exposed to the scrutiny of its readership.
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:33 am

I'd not bet on it, but I have an Idea most Scottish MPsvoted against that bill
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